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By Sean Hopkins on November 1st, 2009
No pre-show notes this week, instead we’ll go straight to the Poll of Honor, provided, as always, by WNW reader The Guy:
Do you think Hulk Hogan going to TNA will have any effect on ROH?
Well, I look forward to your responses and rationalizations on the board this week, now it’s onto the action.
We get an update about Jerry Lynn who was injured on last week’s show at the hands of Kenny King and Rhett Titus. Well, not so much an update, as it’s just footage replayed from last week.
Austin Aries’ music hits and he’s on his way out to the ring with Kenny King in tow. Aries says that last week, the people were treated to a main event of truly epic proportions when he took on Bryan Danielson. Aries says that Dragon calls himself the best wrestler in the world, but you’re only the best until someone comes along and beats you, and that’s exactly what A Double did to Dragon last week. Aries says that it doesn’t exactly make him the best wrestler in the world, it just solidifies his position as the greatest man who ever lived. Aries says that last week King also did something amazing. Aries says that even he had to applaud King when he took an un-retireable man, and retired him. King takes the mic and says that no one sees Jerry Lynn anywhere, because the last time he was in the ring, he put Lynn down like Old Yeller. King says if people are looking for Lynn, try the hospital because he may still be there. King says since he retired Lynn, everyone wants to be Kenny King, but there’s only one King. Tyler Black’s music hits and he’s out on the entrance ramp with a mic. Tyler says everyone may turn to look at King, but they look at him with disgust because of what he did to Jerry Lynn. Tyler says tonight he’s going to steal a page out of Aries’ book and have lottery tonight. He’s going to have a “who wants to kick Kenny King’s ass” lottery. Black says he got the names of everyone in the back that wants to beat King, and we’re going to find out who King is going to have to fight tonight. Black pulls Eddie Kingston’s name out of the hat, and apparently King has found an opponent for tonight.
We go to Hog and Prazak who are quick to discuss the main event. They move on quickly though and introduce the new Executive Producer for ROH on HDNet, Jim Cornette. Hog says he can’t wait to see what Cornette has in store for ROH, and you can add me to that list, too Hog.
Match #1: Sonjay Dutt vs. Delirious vs. Joey Ryan vs. Necro Butcher
Ryan attacks Necro as soon as he tries to get into the ring, but Necro isn’t having is and he chases Ryan around the ring. Sonjay and Delirious square off in the ring with Sonjay getting the upper hand with a shoulder block. Delirious fights back with a leg lariat while Ryan and Necro continue to fight on the floor. Ryan gets a hold of Delirious and Sonjay charges. Delirious moves out of the way and Ryan eats a right hand that sends him down to the floor. Delirious sends Dutt to the outside, goes up to the top turnbuckle and hits a big somersaulting flip to the floor on top of both Ryan and Dutt. Delirious sends Sonjay back into the ring, but he gets hung up on the top rope when he tries to follow. Necro pulls Ryan’s feet out from under him by yanking on the ringside mats. Necro climbs up on the apron, but Ryan grabs his feet and Sonjay executes a sunset flip powerbomb all the way to the floor. Sonjay tosses Delirious back into the ring and tries to go to work but he gets caught by a reverse Manhattan drop. Ryan attacks Delirious from behind and he and Dutt continue their double team strategy. Dutt and Ryan pound on Delirious in the corner, choking away at him with their boots. Delirious is able to fight back, but it doesn’t last long as Ryan hits a beautiful dropkick. Ryan charges Delirious with a running forearm in the corner, but as soon as he hits the move, Sonjay rolls him up. Sonjay only gets two, but it’s obvious that they’re working relationship in this match is over. Ryan tries to catch Dutt with a roll up of his own, and when Dutt kicks out, they surprisingly work together until Necro makes his way back into the match. Necro cleans house on Dutt and Ryan, hitting Ryan with a big right hand and a tiger driver, but Dutt is in to break it up. Dutt hits a big leg drop on Necro before following it up with a springboard dropkick that sends Ryan to the outside. Dutt goes up to the top rope but when he goes for the diving splash, Necro gets his knees up. Delirious hits a panic attack on Dutt and Necro hits a somersaulting dive to the outside on top of Ryan. Delirious goes up top and hits shadows over Hell on Dutt. Delirious pins Dutt and this one is over.
Winner: Delirious by pinfall
Well, this was a pretty damn good match with just a couple of missteps here and there. First off, since the only real feud going into this match was Delirious vs. Sonjay, why exactly were Joey Ryan and the Necro Butcher even a part of this match? I mean, I popped for Necro’s crazy bump to the outside during that sunset flip powerbomb, but other than that and his punch/tiger driver to Ryan he was kind of just laying on the floor for most of the show. Also, I just want to go ahead and say this here, FIND JOEY RYAN SOMETHING TO DO! The man is far too talented to be relegated to matches like this. I mean, his last match on HDNet was a super quick win over Roderick Strong, which I was really hoping would lead to some sort of a push, but seeing where he falls this week, I guess that was just wishful thinking. Sonjay and Delirious were pretty good here. I definitely enjoy Sonjay more when he isn’t ripping off every major wrestler’s shtick (Flair’s strut, etc.). Dutt is definitely a talented performer in the ring, I’d just like to see him work on his gimmick a little bit more; he’s a playa, but he also holds his hands together in prayer, and he rips off other wrestlers taunts, it’s not so much a gimmick as it is three or four half gimmicks all mashed together. Delirious has been more fun to watch lately, and thank goodness for no Daizee Haze this week. Kudos to Delirious for his crazy dive to the outside on top of Ryan and Dutt. I’d have to say that this is definitely on the short list of best openers for ROH on HDNet yet. A-.
Skullkrusher Rasche Brown, a man who’s been doing the ROH pre-show thing for a little while, looks to be the newest addition to ROH’s roster. He actually gets a little bit of interview time in the back. Brown is standing next to a big truck and he says that what people don’t know about him, is that he cares about nothing, he hates everything, and there’s nothing better in life than to hurt a man and watch him squeal. Before we leave, Brown makes sure to let us know that the pain is coming.
Kyle Durden is standing backstage with Eddie Kingston, the man who was chosen earlier tonight to take on Kenny King. Durden introduces Kingston and Kingston says that he should be happy being in the main event but he’s not. Kingston says that anyone who’s been watching the program knows that he wants Chris Hero. Kingston says that King is going to be an unfortunate victim of how King feels about Hero. Before the segment is over, Eddie says that King is going to pay for what he did to a man that Kingston considers a legend.
We get an interview with the man who’s leaving in a few weeks (well, in reality he’s already been gone a couple of weeks) Bryan Danielson. Dragon talks about the history that he has with Aries. Dragon talks about the 70-minute match that he had with Aries at Testing the Limit ’04. Dragon says it was so much fun to be able to go out and do whatever they wanted to for as long as they wanted.
Match #2: D-Lo Brown vs. Brent Albright
Before the match, we get some of D-Lo’s thoughts on the whole Jerry Lynn situation. D-Lo says that he’ll give his thoughts on his Twitter account, and you’ll know exactly what he thinks about Jerry Lynn. Both men follow the code of honor at the beginning of the match, but D-Lo uses it to try and surprise Albright with a clothesline. Albright ducks and catches D-Lo with a backslide into a pin, but it’s only good for two. Albright tries for a couple more quick pins, but he can’t keep D-Lo down for more than two. Brown rolls to the outside toward the entrance ramp, but Albright follows him out and slams him into one of the ringside barricades. Albright tries to throw Brown into another barricade, but Brown reverses and sends Albright in instead. Brown slams Albright’s head into one of the barricades, and he gets in the referee’s face, telling Todd Sinclair not to tell him what to do. Brown hits a big suplex on the outside before tossing Albright back into the ring. Albright and Brown trade blows in the middle of the ring with D-Lo getting the advantage with an eye poke. Albright surprises D-Lo with another quick roll up, but D-Lo pops out and hits a big shining wizard to retaliate. D-Lo throws Albright out to the floor. D-Lo tries to hit Albright with a big cross body, but Albright moves out of the way and Brown connects with the barricade. Albright hits a big exploder suplex on the floor and makes his way back into the ring. D-Lo makes his way back to his feet and he’s immediately blindsided by Albright who connects with a big suicide dive through the ropes. Brown and Albright trade blows on the floor and Brown takes Albright down with a snap mare. Brown goes to the top turnbuckle and leaps all the way out to the floor on top of Albright with a big cross body block. Brown sends Albright back into the ring at the count of 13 and he stalks Albright, teasing a big clothesline. D-Lo goes for the clothesline, but Albright connects with a rock bottom (which is incorrectly called a uranage by Prazak) and starts to get himself fired up. Albright takes D-Lo down with a flurry of offensive strikes, ducks a clothesline from Brown and hits a big powerslam that’s good enough to keep D-Lo down for two. Albright charges D-Lo in the corner but Brown gets his knees up. D-Lo hits a beautiful second rope moonsault but it’s only good for a near fall. Albright surprises D-Lo with a DDT out of nowhere and he goes up to the top turnbuckle. Albright leaps off with a cross body but Brown is able to roll through into a pin, Albright kicks out at two. Brown hits a big time clothesline on Albright and he connects with a big powerbomb, but Albright turns the pin attempt into the crowbar. D-Lo tries to fight out but Albright will not let go of the hold. Albright cranks back on Brown’s arm and D-Lo is forced to tap out.
Winner: Brent Albright by submission
Well, this was a hell of a lot better than I thought it would be. I think Albright is at his best against opponents of his own size, but since so much of the ROH roster is smaller guys, it rarely happens. I’ve always thought that Albright would do well in WWE (and I’m honestly surprised he didn’t make a bigger splash in his first WWE run). D-Lo has been very impressive since his debut in ROH earlier this year and it’s a shame that we won’t get to see a rematch here with D-Lo joining TNA as a road agent. I have to say that I love the “ROH-style” of small guys having incredibly athletic matches, but sometimes it’s just fun to watch two huge guys wail on each other, and that is exactly what this match was. I have to give respect to both Albright and Brown for taking huge suplexes on the outside of the ring. This was just a lot of hard-hitting fun, and it just makes me wish that D-Lo hadn’t left so we could’ve been treated to a couple more return matches. B.
Kyle Durden is standing backstage along with Colt Cabana. Durden asks Cabana how it feels to be in the main event next week against Nigel McGuinness. Cabana says it’s fantastic, and with great responsibility comes great actions. Cabana says he’s going to make a stand, a stance, a stain, and a little bit of everything. Cabana tells Nigel to get ready before closing with, “Spiderman, I’m ready”.
Main Event: Kenny King vs. Eddie Kingston
King looks a bit reluctant to start things out, trying to use his quickness to stay away from Kingston. King leaps frogs Kingston and ducks out to the floor to catch his breath. The two men lock up and Kingston backs Kin up into the corner and breaks clean. King ducks a lock up attempt and Kingston looks to be getting a little frustrated. Kingston backs King up into the corner, but when he tries to break clean, King catches him with a right hand to the face. King laughs at Kingston and bails out to the floor, but Kingston is quick to follow this time and he launches King into the ringside barricade, twice. Kingston beats on King around ringside for a bit before throwing him into yet another barricade. The fans chant, “one more time” and Kingston is more than happy to oblige. Kingston rolls King back into the ring and stalks him for a bit before hitting a big exploder suplex. Kingston beats on King for a bit in the corner, chopping away at King’s chest. King turns it around on Kingston though and hits a chop of his own. This only serves to make Kingston mad, and he chops King with so much force King ends up on the mat. Kingston hits a fisherman suplex and he tries for the pin but King is able to kick out. Kingston kicks away at King’s head, but when he goes to pick him up King tries to fight back. Kingston chops away at King and King begs off, but when Kingston charges, King pulls down on the top rope and Eddie Kingston sails out to the floor. King pounds on Kingston on the floor, slamming his head into the barricade and choking him with his boot. King throws Kingston into the barricade and repeatedly slams his head into the barricade before tossing Kingston back into the ring. King connects with a suplex and he floats over right into a mount position, rocking Kingston with some huge forearms. King locks in a rear chin lock and rips away at Kingston’s nose, but Kingston is able to fight his way out with a series of elbows. Kingston bounces off the rope but he’s immediately caught with a spinebuster from King. King slaps Kingston across the face but that only fires Kingston up. Kingston slaps back, but King puts him down with a duo of shoulder blocks. King tries to send Kingston across the rope, but Kingston holds on and executes a beautiful uranage. Kingston knocks King down with a couple of chops before launching King with another overhead suplex. Kingston hits a nasty lariat and he tries for the pin but King kicks out at two. Kingston goes for the spinning back fist, but King pulls referee Paul Turner in the way and Kingston is forced to stop himself. King picks Kingston up and hits royal flush, but again it’s only good for a near fall. King catches Kingston with an enzugiri before snapping his neck across the top rope. King goes for a springboard move, but Kingston catches him and hits a big overhead suplex. Kingston goes for the pin but King is able to grab the rope and stop the count. Kingston hits the backdrop driver and Chris Hero makes his way down the ring and up to the apron. Kingston is distracted as he stares down Hero and he quickly falls victim to the shotgun double knees to the back from King. King follows it up with the coronation, and pins Kingston for the win.
Winner: Kenny King by pinfall
I’ve been saying, pretty much every single match that Eddie Kingston has had, that he needs to be given more credible opponents. Now that he’s had a credible opponent, I can see a little bit more why people can get behind Kingston. With that said, I still don’t see him becoming anything more than a one-note kind of guy in ROH. This is the second time that Kingston’s cut a promo talking about how the guy he’s going to be wrestling tonight is going to have to deal with being a Chris Hero stand-in. I realize that Kingston has a ton of history with Chris Hero, but the problem is that most of this feud has been built in other promotions and to the more casual fan, they’ve got to be wondering why this guy has such a huge problem with Chris Hero. All that aside, the one thing that made me happiest about this match was seeing Kenny King in the main event. King belongs in the ROH main event scene, and in the wake of Nigel and Dragon leaving, King is ready to finally break onto the main event scene in ROH. These two definitely were able to put on a serviceable match, but Kingston really needs a more diverse offense if he’s going to stick around for any length of time. Chops and suplexes aren’t a move-set unto themselves. Necro has been able to build a huge fan base using only big right hands and the occasional tiger suplex, but he’s got a ton more charisma, and he’s not quite as whiny as Kingston. King needs to move on toward bigger and better things soon. Kingston needs to hurry up and finish this feud with Chris Hero so he can become something more than just a one-dimensional brawler. B-.
Report Card
In Ring Action: This week has fewer matches than most normal shows, but the action in those matches more than made up for the lack of a weekly squash. The King/Kingston match was probably the weakest (which is surprising, because I think this is the first time that I’ve rated the main event the lowest of the week), but it was still a good match. King performed admirably, but it just seemed like every time the match was starting to get really good, Kingston would be in to slow it down again with one of his overhead suplexes. The D-Lo Brown/Brent Albright match made me remember that Brent Albright can be somewhat entertaining when he’s not being relegated to squash matches and a somewhat lackluster feud with Castagnoli. The opening four-way was surprisingly the match of the night, and that’s even a little more surprising considering the recent string of great main events. I think this was one of the most solid wrestling shows that ROH has put together since the show on HDNet started. I still do have to say though, find something worthwhile for Joey Ryan, please. B+
Out of Ring Action: Kingston was definitely the weakest link in this category too. He just sounds like a broken record talking endlessly about his feud with Chris Hero, and how even though they’ve already had a match, Kingston still needs to get his hands on Hero. This is just one of the most boring feuds that ROH has put forth in recent memory; Kingston constantly talking about wanting to have a match with Hero, and Hero constantly talking about how Kingston isn’t good enough to have a match with him. The only difference between the two is that Chris Hero cuts some crazy good promos, and he talks about subjects other than Eddie Kingston (what a novel idea). I know some of you out there probably just think that I have my mind made up about Kingston and nothing’s going to change that, and maybe you’re right. I’m just saying that I won’t have a chance to truly decide how I feel about Kingston until he’s moved away from this (what seems to be pointless) Chris Hero feud. The promo with Colt Cabana was entertaining, and even though I don’t think he’s quite back in his stride just yet, I think he’s still cutting some of the most entertaining promos in professional wrestling today. The Dragon segment was a little weird, since it didn’t really further anything and it was mostly just him talking about how much fun he’s had in ROH, but I think I’m OK with that. The man has devoted almost 8 years of his life to ROH, and if anyone ever deserved promo time just to shoot the shit, it’s Dragon. It was nice to hear him talk about one of his favorite matches from his career, and I hope that we get more little promo pieces from him in his final few weeks on HDNet. The in ring segment to start the show was pretty entertaining, and I’m looking forward to the eventual Kenny King/Jerry Lynn match upon Lynn’s return. Finally, the Skullkrusher promo was a bit interesting. Rasche Brown reminds me of a really old-school psycho heel, just in the way that he talks and bugs his eyes out. I don’t know if I like it yet, or if I just think it’s goofy, but I guess I’ll get a chance to decide for myself when he makes his HDNet debut in two weeks. B+
Overall: This was a very strong episode of ROH on HDNet (this show is in dire need of a name change), and even though it was one of the more top-to-bottom solid wrestling shows, there were really no storylines furthered outside of Dutt/Delirious and Kingston/Hero. If you’re looking for a fix of good wrestling this week, then of course you know that this is the place to turn. But if you were looking for a little more of a story driven episode tonight, you’re out of luck. I’d have to say though, that this one is worth going out of your way to catch. B+.
Well, another week, come and gone. I’m looking forward to the next couple of weeks of ROH programming. Nigel McGuinness vs. Colt Cabana next week should be an interesting match to say the least, and Dragon/Strong vs. The American Wolves in two weeks should be a blow-away match. Alright guys, you know the drill. Same bat time, same bat channel. Until next week…
YOU MESS WITH ANOTHER MAN’S WOMAN, YOU AT LEAST GOTTA LOOK HIM IN THE EYE!
Non Wrestling Related Media O’ the Week
OK, so I’m double cheating a little bit here because not only have I used this before, but this time around it’s just a little bit wrestling related too. Whatever, it’s my blog and I’ll do what I want. It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia is one of the most consistently funny shows on television right now, so if you haven’t watched it, go watch it. For even more incentive, this past week’s episode featured the gang trying to put on a wrestling show “for the troops” and it even featured Roddy Piper. So seriously, go watch it.
Tags: Austin Aries, Brent Albright, Bryan Danielson, Colt Cabana, D-Lo Brown, Dave Prazak, Delirious, Eddie Kingston, Joey Ryan, Kenny King, Kyle Durden, Mike Hogewood, Necro Butcher, Sonjay Dutt
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November 2nd, 2009 at 12:15 am
I don’t think Hogan going will matter much, he’s done this before. I think it’s just for ratings. (Aren’t all things though).
November 2nd, 2009 at 12:32 pm
first off I haven’t seen this weeks ROH yet but it looks good. I plan to watch it this week……good job once again on your blog Sean. As for this weeks Question.
I don’t think Hogan being part of TNA is going to affect ROH much. If TNA thinks Hogan will save their company and help it reach the next level they are in for a rude awakeing. True Hogan is know world wide as one of the most popular wrestler’s in the world.
But that was 25 yrs ago and with the help of Vince McMahon behind him. Hogan in the U.S. As we know is know as a brawler and while overseas in Japan he used more Mat bound techinical old school Wrestling. BUT I don’t think he will be in the ring much mainly due to his health problems.
Hogan’s Ego is well known for yrs and just with in the last week or so since he signed with TNA. You see clips of Hogan on TV or sound bites from radio shows and he doesn’t seem to being making a bigger deal of signing with TNA or help promote the company. Which I hear is not making the TNA higher ups happy.
I’m all for giving him and Bishoff a chance to help turn things around for TNA and help them grow as a company but so far he doesn’t seem to be off to a good start.
Fans may hope of history repeating it’self by having or wanting TNA to move to Monday nights and have the 2nd coming of the Monday Night Wars. But I don’t see that happening anytime soon.
If they do move to Monday Nights TNA better make sure their Talent is locked in for next several Years Otherwise Vince will start raiding their talent. Mainly any TNA star whos contract is coming up with in the next year.
Guy what’s your opinion on Hogan and Bishoff in TNA.
November 2nd, 2009 at 5:09 pm
I’ll have to say this as far as this week’s PoH. I don’t think that Hogan going to TNA will have any NEGATIVE effect on ROH, but I do think there could in fact be a positive effect.
If Hogan is able to talk Flair into jumping on board with TNA, I think we have the best chance we’ve had in years to see wrestling move back into the main stream. People will always have interest in following Hogan and Flair just to see what they’re doing (I’ll have to admit to being one myself, Hulk Hogan’s celebrity wrestling, anyone?), and that bodes well for TNA.
I really feel like if TNA is somehow able to transform themselves into a viable threat against the WWE, it can’t do anything but help ROH. ROH is poised to move into the niche that ECW left behind, the company that provides true, action-packed, fun to watch wrestling, for real wrestling fans.
I do agree with you though, Patrick, if TNA moves to Monday nights (and even if they don’t honestly), they need to start working on locking down their talent for the next few years. They’ve already signed Matt Morgan and AJ Styles to long-term contracts, both of which were smart moves in my opinion, but they need to do more. ROH really needs to start doing that now too. They’ve already lost Dragon and Nigel, and there’s always a chance that one of the bigger two companies would be able to swoop in and steal whomever they wanted to. If ROH is able to, they need to think about locking down people like the Young Bucks, the American Wolves, the Briscoes, Steenerico, Roderick Strong and Kenny King.
I think, as Richard said in his post about Hogan, that it’s starting to become a very interesting landscape in professional wrestling. For the first time since the demise of WCW, there is a real possibility, however small it may be, that another David might come along to try and knock the Goliath that is WWE off their throne. That alone is truly exciting.
November 2nd, 2009 at 8:26 pm
Sean or Guy, do you feel if TNA does compete with WWE no matter how slim it is. That it would force Vince to drop the PG Stuff or will he just continues as is. Vince has shifted back to PG to bring in more advertisers which in turn makes money for him.
During the Monday Night Wars They lost those advitisers because the majority of them didn’t want nothing to do with WWE because they hated the product WWE put out.
So I’m wondering if Vince would in the future change his mind and get off the PG kick he is currently on.
what worked once before (PG) doesn’t right now because the fans don’t want that.
Even tho this is only one example…having officials run down to ring side to towel down the wrestlers of blood To me slows down the action in the ring if it happens to be a very good match that the fans are into.
During Bragging Rights Cena kept pushing the guys away so he could continue the match. since he was busted open the hardway and they kept trying to get him to hold still long enough untill they managed to keep the wound from bleeding.
seeing them at ring side ready to patch up any wrestler is getting stupid and just interfers in the match. no matter who is in the ring.
even it being a long shot I wonder if Vince will step up with good solid storylines and matches..or just keep as he is going no matter what TNA does or ROH for that matter.
Vince wanting to be number 1 in the business is nothing new and with recent reports of him talking to wrestlers on that over seas tour. just shows him to be a jealious person.
which is funny since he himself says compition is good for business.
November 2nd, 2009 at 8:51 pm
Sean: I think you’re the person that should replace Luke when he retires next year
November 2nd, 2009 at 11:26 pm
Agree with David on Luke’s replacement, out of all the blogs on the site, this one is by far the best (structure and commentary) congrats Sean.
As many have said already, Hogan going to TNA might make prowrestling go mainstream again, and that will definitely benefit ROH.
Don’t think Vince will drop the PG stuff as long as Cena is the face of the company (which is sad) and maybe thats one of the reasons TNA has a chance of starting Monday Night Wars II.
And finally, can’t wait for the Nigel vs Cabana main event. They have the potential to make MOTY candidate.
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Patrick, I don’t think Vince would change his product right off the bat, I think there would have to be a significant challenge from TNA before we see WWE completely abandon this PG kick they’ve been on. I’d really like to see them drop the kiddie stuff, especially after watching the “Raw’s got Talent” segment from last night’s show, but I don’t think we’ll see a major change in the WWE format until TNA builds itself up a bit more.
We didn’t really get the Attitude era in WWF until WCW really stepped it up and started stealing away viewers from WWF. Obviously TNA doesn’t have quite as many advantages as WCW had back in the day (you won’t see TNA giving away WWE’s Raw results before the show, TNA doesn’t have the billions and billions that Ted Turner had), so if we do see a shift in programming, I expect it to be a year or two down the line, at the earliest. I wish it wasn’t so, but that’s how I see things playing out down the line.
David and Juan, I appreciate your comments and I’m flattered that you’d pick me as the replacement for “the Godfather of the Blog Spot” Luke. To be completely honest though, I really enjoy being able to watch and comment on ROH on a weekly basis, and I don’t think I’d want to give this blog up. I also don’t think I’d be able to run two blogs at once, although I’m sure it would be a fun challenge for a while. I wouldn’t be surprised if we see a current WNW blogger move up into Luke’s spot, but I don’t think it will be me. Who knows what the next few months will bring, but as of right now, I’m happy to be where I am, writing about the best wrestling show on television.
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:20 pm
I agree with you ROH is the best wrestling show on TV right now.
November 4th, 2009 at 10:04 am
I agree with Sean about Hogan to TNA, it could only have a positive affect on ROH. I see Hogan possibly making some cuts, and where would those go? Exactly. If, for some reason, Hogan & Bischoff decide to drop any worthy wrestler, like what happened with Sonjay Dutt, it can’t possibly hurt ROH to book the dude (or dudette, if they fire a good knockout)
Although, I disagree about ROH locking their talent. Cary Silkin have always said that he would not stop one of his stars from breaking into the bigger promotions, and infact, as far as I know Danielson was the only ROH star ever under an actual contract (and only because he never saw himself going any higher in the US anyway). I don’t know if his contract was just up, or if he asked for the breach for WWE, but either way, ROH didn’t fight to keep him in, like they didn’t fight for Joe, like they didn’t fight for Homicide, (although those 2 left because of the RF incident, so IDK how much say ROH had in that anyway) like they didn’t fight for Punk, like they didn’t fight for Nigel. And what do all of those have in common? Their careers are blossoming. Punk is a main eventer on WWE, Nigel & Joe are main eventers on TNA, and Homicide is on the top of the X division (after Amazing Red).
ROH understands that they can’t force their stars from reaching the top until ROH ARE considered the top. That is one of the things I really appreciate about ROH, and why they book all their stars as potential main eventers, in case someone gets snatched.
And Patrick, I have complete faith that Vince will drop the PG if competition arises (happens when and if it happens). Right now WWE to him is a business like any business, a way to make more money. Hopefully, when he’ll need to put effort in, he’ll get his passion back and the Attitude WWE era will rise again. Right now, roster wise, both companies have very talented rosters, IMO moreso than the Attitude era. All WWE has to do is give them a chance (TNA already does).
I do think that Hogan & Bischoff could make that splash in a few months. The greatest thing with Hogan is that he can get that media attention to get TNA more viewers, and with Bischoff’s brilliant booking mind (I am confident that he has learned from his WCW mistakes), they’ll stick around. (which is what I think happened to WCW when Hogan came).
This long comment is to make up for not being around the whole week.
November 5th, 2009 at 6:08 am
I don’t know why everyone’s bitching about Hogan. Sure it’s image, but what’s good for him is good for all of Wrestling