By Richard Gray on November 10th, 2008
TNA Wrestling held their Turning Point pay-per-view last night from Universal Studios in Orlando, Florida. With the event being held in Orlando and coming off of Bound For Glory last month, Turning Point is considered by many to be a throwaway effort. Below are my full thoughts on the event on a match by match basis in the order in which they occurred:
TNA opened the show with the X Division Seeding match which was done to rank the X Division workers for the X Division title. The match included Consequences Creed, Jay Lethal, Eric Young, Petey Williams, Jimmy Rave, Homicide, Doug Williams, Tanahashi, and Volador. The match was a fun, fast paced opener which is something that I have come to expect from the company’s X Division workers. The match wasn’t the spot fest that some may have hoped for but there was enough quick moving action to keep my interest throughout. Eric Young won the match, becoming the number one ranked X Division worker when he pinned Jay Lethal (who seeds #2). After the match Eric Young cut a very effective promo on the Main Event Mafia. It was some of the best mic work that Eric Young has done as he took a stand for the younger workers of the company.
Throughout the night TNA did backstage segments with members of the Main Event Mafia and the younger workers of the company. This entire pay-per-view was to establish the angle and it resulted in some very good backstage mic work throughout the night. Critics are going to be quick to point out similarities to the New World Order, however, last night’s TNA show one of the more entertaining shows that the company has done all year.
Up next was a TNA Knockout Tag Team match with Roxxi & Taylor Wilde taking on TNA Knockout Women’s Champion Awesome Kong & Raisha Saeed. The match was very well done and saw Taylor Wilde pin Raisha Saeed in her bridging suplex to get the win for her team. All four women looked good and the match seemed to make the Knockouts relevant once again. Taylor Wilde has underperformed, however, looked much better and more comfortable in the tag team match last night. Raisha Saeed (who is known as Cheerleader Melissa on the indy circuit) is a very talented worker and should get more opportunities to wrestle in the company.
Rhino and Sheik Abdul Bashir had kind of a weird match. The work was decent; however, Scott Hall and ICP were in the front row for it. I was more distracted watching Hall and the two clowns than I was covering the match. Rhino ended up getting the win after hitting Gore.
Prior to Beer Money Inc. defending the TNA World Tag Team Championship against The Motor City Machineguns, they did a backstage segment where the Guns disrespected Mick Foley (who was trying to talk to them) and it resulted in a brawl breaking out backstage. The segment kind of goes with what we’ve been told of how Sabin and Shelley act in real life backstage although I thought that it was weird to do it before they went out to face a heel tag team. Nonetheless, Sabin & Shelley had a spectacular match with Robert Roode & James Storm. All four men displayed a tremendous work rate with Shelley & Sabin putting on a spot fest, showing that they are still one of the best tag teams in the business when given the opportunity. Beer Money also showed just how underrated that they are as a tag team as Robert Roode stole the win after pinning Chris Sabin who had beer spit in his eyes.
Booker T and Christian Cage had a very solid match against one another with Booker retaining the TNA Legends Championship with the stipulation being that Cage must join the Main Event Mafia. Christian Cage’s future with TNA is certainly up in the air as he is expected to leave the company so it will be interesting to see how TNA plays it out at tonight’s Impact taping. The match was what most people would have probably expected from Booker and Christian. Nothing in particular stood out, although their work rate was on par with what was displayed throughout the night.
Abyss and Kurt Angle had the match of the night in their Falls Count Anywhere match. While I am not a huge fan of gimmick matches, if TNA wants to do them, this is how they should be done. Abyss hit his finishers, Angle hit his arsenal and the fight took to the crowd. There were a lot of good spots, with Angle hitting a somersault off the ramp onto Abyss outside on the concrete. They filmed the spot in a way that made it look bigger than it was; however, Angle is still insane for even attempting it. The match ended on the scaffolding above the Spanish announce table with Angle hitting Abyss with a European uppercut and sending him crashing down through the table for the three count. Mike Tenay said after the match, “ladies and gentlemen that was freakin’ awesome” and I could not agree more.
Samoa Joe vs. Kevin Nash was your basic uninspired effort by Kevin Nash. The booking was also weird because it was basically a No DQ match then referee Rudy Charles started to get bent of shape over low blows and chokes. It didn’t make much sense after he let shots on the outside and shots to the exposed turnbuckle go. Nash was Nash and ended up going over Joe -a move that I consider to be more than eye-rolling. Obviously TNA wanted to use Turning Point as an event to establish the Main Event Mafia as the most dominant stable of all time, but Nash over Joe. Come on!
The main event was Sting vs. AJ Styles for the TNA World Heavyweight Championship. AJ had to fight off the Main Event Mafia, who hit the ring towards the end and the crowd was split 50/50 for it. The match was decent, but nothing compared to Abyss vs. Angle and the Tag Team Championship match that was on the undercard. Sting looked more impressive than he did at Bound For Glory and seems to be embracing the role as the company’s top guy. I want to give Styles the majority of the credit because of how good of a worker that he is. Styles can work with anyone in this business and make them look as good as he wants to. That’s not to denigrate Sting because he can still go, however, Styles is that good.
TNA Turning Point was one of the better TNA pay-per-views of 2008. The event had some questionable creative calls such as the Main Event Mafia winning every match, however, TNA still delivered with nearly three hours of entertainment. Gimmick matches were limited and there was not near as much overbooking. This is one wrestling show that I wouldn’t mind watching again. TNA took a throwaway pay-per-view and used it to establish the Main Event Mafia and I felt like they accomplished that. The work rate by most of the workers was phenomenal and the show featured very good backstage mic work and in-ring promos. Whether you like the Main Event Mafia idea or not at least it’s something we haven’t seen in awhile and adds a new element to TNA Wrestling which has been stale for way too long.
Tags: Abyss, AJ Styles, Beer Money retains, Booker T retains, Eric Young, Good show, Kurt Angle, Sting retains, TNA Knockout Division is relevant again
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November 10th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
I like and Enjoy the Main Event Mafia, Turning point as a whole was good enjoyed watching it. They just need to keep the MEM small and not start added a ton of wrestlers like what happen with the NWO.
Great Blog Richard congrates.
Establishing the MEM as a strong group on this pay-per-view was not bad and I felt a good Idea.
Beer Money Inc. against The Motor City Machineguns was good both teams did well, dispite how Motor City Machineguns may act in R/L which doesn’t bother me I could care less. They are good workers same with Beer Money Inc both teams did a great job.
All the rest of the matches at the end from Booker T and Christian Cage,Abyss and Kurt Angle,
Samoa Joe vs. Kevin Nash to Sting vs. AJ Style. each of them I enjoyed and was happy to see the MEM win in all their matches.
Granted Nash be past his prime but I enjoy watching him, he has all ways been a favorite of mine. So untill he desides to hang up the boots once and for all, I will look forward to watching him.
Samoa Joe is a good wrestler and has improved since his indy days of course his early days with TNA were a lot better as the unstopable force. Same With AJ Styles his work is very impressive.
This was one of the better TNA pay-per-views from top to bottom. Everyone did a great job puting on a great show.
November 10th, 2008 at 7:05 pm
yea i agree Patrick, Kurt Angle vs Abyss was my favourite of the night, great blog as usual Richard!
November 11th, 2008 at 2:46 am
I gotta tell ya… I’m a big time WWE fan…. But WWE needs to have wrestling like was shown on TNA’s Turning Point. Very good matches..a bit of dramatics… but some can be excused. TNA seems to be about wrestling for the most part… isn’t that what we all want?
November 11th, 2008 at 10:44 am
i laughed when Booker tried hitting the Unprettier, but got mixed up holding him in a full nelson rather than double underhook. he ended up turning him around when 1 arm was holding a full nelson and the other an underhook. i laughed so hard. was the first main event even a match? it was a joke! i am actually glad that CC is going back 2 the E, as he can be greatly utilized on Smackdown! he should return as face and feud with edge, followed by them re-uniting as heels to form a main event stable-like team, helping each other out in single matches like stables do. holding the Tag Titles, obviously.
November 11th, 2008 at 11:01 am
Thanks everyone for the feedback thus far. For those reading that didn’t watch, I would recommend seeing this show.
November 12th, 2008 at 10:10 am
Richard did we watch the same ppv? I agree with all the matches except the Knockouts tag match. The first five minutes was sloppy as hell. I seen spots that when they missed they did them anyway! It was almost horrendous. I seen miscues from Raisha and of Roxxi. Some miscues even came from Taylor. When it was Taylor in the ring with Kong it was stellar. When it was anyone else in the ring it was like watching a great match turn into mush. I agree the outcome was nice, but to get there was a little hard to watch. My wife even got pissed when all of the miscues and missed spots were noticed. It was alot better than matches of the “E”, but honestly I would have rather watched the MMG and BMI match go longer!
I also noticed that Bashir pushed someone that was with the JWO. I seen the ICP and Hall. Two other guys were with them as well. One guy was wearing a cowboy hat, and the other had blue hair. West said that Bashir had pushed a person in the audience. I was like no he pushed someone from the JWO. I knew Hall was the JWC champion, but after what happened to him and TNA why did they allow him to be there? I also remember when ICP got to the front row alot of people started chanting ICP! I was blown away then cause I remember them having Hall as their champ. When Hall stood between them I knew then something was in the works. Then after the BMI and MMG match they all disappeared.
The two main event matches were awful. Joe losing to Nash was like watching a bad car wreck. Nothing pretty. I was hoping for interference to make the match meaningful. None! Then I was like maybe Hall will come out and beat down on Joe, and make himself the newest member of the MEM. No that didn’t happen either. Joe goes through two powerbombs, but a low blow is what defeats him? Weak. This match should have been where the knockout match was due to it being weak and doing nothing for Joe’s main event status but weakening it.
The other main event was so much better but weak in comparison to everything else, but better than the knockout match. I knew there would be interferance, but was hoping that AJ would walk out the PPV with some kind of memorable moment. No! It was a poor performance on the hands of Sting. He is getting better, but still not the Sting I remember from WCW days. The tag match for the titles should have been the main event in my opinion.
These are my opinions. Richard as always great report, but please do not sugarcoat what happened. As always we will agree to disagree with some aspect of a TNA show.
Have a pretty day!!!!
November 13th, 2008 at 9:55 am
Here’s what I hope they do with the MEM-storyline:
In the coming weeks, the TNA Originals keep on knowing what the MEM are going to do, when MEM comes out to the ring to stomp on somebody, immediately the Originals come out. And DW or Tenay say something like: “It’s almost like the Originals knew MEM was going to some out”.
In a couple of months, it is revealed that Christian was a mole for the Originals in MEM. He, Joe and Styles hatched the plan. He didn’t lose to booker on purpose, but if he where to lose, he would be the perfect mole.
November 13th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
too bad he is going back to the E, that could never happen. if he does end up staying with TNA they have a revenge angle planned…
November 14th, 2008 at 10:49 am
If that was revealed in the spoilers, I dont want to know, i go out of my way to not read the spoilers. I actually like to be suprised.