Is TNA For Sale?, Where Kane Goes From Here, Daniel Bryan vs. HHH, Difference Between WWE & TNA

I know you’ve seen the rumors so let me just cut to the chase – is TNA Wrestling for sale?

I’ve had several people ask me about this and I can tell you that I have not heard that as of this writing. I was told a couple of months ago that Viacom might be interested in purchasing TNA if it became available. Viacom, the parent company of Spike TV, also owns Bellator MMA. Sources close to Viacom indicated to me they would be interested because they were high up on the TNA brand and cross-over partnership. However, interest and actually paying are two separate things. The fact there are rumors the Carter family is looking to unload TNA isn’t surprising. Dixie Carter’s parents, Bob and Janice Carter, checked out on the project long ago. It’s caused a real rift between them as they’ve pushed Dixie to cut expenses for years. The fact she has actually listened by trimming down the roster and taking Impact off the road, indicates she knows her family is serious about getting the expenditures under control.

Now that Kane has returned, is he joining the Wyatt Family or feuding with them?

Based on the fact that Kane made short work of Luke Harper and Erick Roman at Hell in a Cell indicates to me a program is forthcoming. WWE tried to keep fans guessing by having Kane chokeslam The Miz but I thought Kane’s return fell flat. Both Kane and Miz seem to be after Bray Wyatt so perhaps they are both involved in a match at Survivor Series.

John Cena and Randy Orton are once again champions which honestly bores me, but my question is why did Daniel Bryan lose? Did WWE not want two extremely popular faces (Bryan and Cena) holding the two main championships?

I didn’t like the ending to Randy Orton vs. Daniel Bryan. The way this program has been booked it’s never looked like Daniel Bryan has had a legitimate chance to win the WWE Championship. He even went over at Night of Champions only to be stripped of the title. At this point it’s time to move on. If anything else, at least Bryan is over like rover and is one of the top babyfaces in the company. I would rather see Bryan move on to feud with Triple H, which I heard was being talked about for Survivor Series before what happened Sunday night at Hell in a Cell. As for both Orton and Cena being champions, WWE usually doesn’t like two babyfaces or two heels holding the world titles but I’m not sure how much that weighed into the booking of the pay-per-view. There was no way Cena was going under in his return match.  You can get my full opinions on WWE Hell in a Cell 2013 at this link.

You’ve mentioned before that WWE isn’t interested in AJ Styles because they’d have to retrain him. What exactly is the difference between the WWE way of wrestling and the TNA way?

Vince McMahon looks at all workers as bush league until they’ve “made it” in WWE. The fact of the matter is fewer people watch TNA than they do WWE and he doesn’t look at the exposure they’ve gained in TNA as a big deal. Whether or not this is fair isn’t for me to decide, it’s just the way it is. Vince didn’t care that Christian became an established top guy in TNA, he was reserved to the mid card in WWE before finally getting an opportunity to prove what many people already knew. As for workers like Rob Van Dam, WWE treated him like he never left and actually made him a bigger deal through one video package than TNA did the entire time we was there. There is a method to Vince’s madness as I’ll argue Daniel Bryan is a bigger star today than he’s ever been before. It didn’t matter that he was a heralded independent worker that everyone knew and loved, he wasn’t a big deal until he proved himself on the big stage.

From the Ask WNW vault…

October 2012 – I thought the finish to CM Punk vs. Ryback at Hell in a Cell was lazy, nonsensical and very poorly done. This isn’t an issue about having Punk retain while not making Ryback look weak. This is an issue of the undefeated superstar taking a loss in his first relevant match as a main event performer. Punk came out looking like the cowardly heel but why should anyone be scared of 0-1 Ryback? As I pointed out here in Richard Reacts, it completely lacked logic for the referee to be able to stop Ryback from Shell-shocking Punk. If Ryback is who they say he is, he destroys the referee without cause. The main event could not have come off worse and despite working the best he could, the booking assured no progress for Ryback as a viable main event wrestler.

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  • Kevin

    Main event picture is so weak right now. Cena and Orton? That’s original. Why is WWE so afraid of putting new talent in the main event picture and keeping them there? Give Cesaro and Ambrose a long look. Ryback and Axel completely ruined the “Heyman Guy” gimmick

    • Justin Lal

      Uh… 2011 is waving at you! You don’t remember when CM Punk and Daniel Bryan were the champions at the end of 2011 and leading into WM 28? John Cena and Randy Orton went a full year without holding the title and still fans are bitching.

      • Lebron James

        First time I agree with this guy. People need to stop complaining. In EVERY sport there are always dominant teams/athletes. Orton and Cena are that dominant “athlete”, that’s why they’re the world champs. Get over it. I want to see some new stars come up too, but we know how horrible these writers are. Ziggler, Cesaro, any of The Shield guys, Barret, or Bray Wyatt should get a shot.

      • Jbreed

        But even when John Cena wasn’t holding the title he was still main main eventing ppvs.CM Punk was the champion but John Cena was main eventing against John frikkin’ Laurinaitis.

        • Bob’s Diner

          And Orton was winning every feud he was in. Strange how everyone considers that a ‘humbling’ period for him

          • Jbreed

            It’s something I never understood with Orton. He never sold a ton of merchandise, he never boosted ppv buyrates, his character is boring and he’s not great in the ring but still he’s always been the number 2 guy and the guy who’s held back so many other potential stars.

  • Ant_C

    I saw that finish at hell in a cell coming a mile away. I called it the night Shawn was announced as ref. HHH will now be like you voted for it. its what you wanted, blame yourselves blah blah blah. Should have voted for Bob Backlund.

  • Tim

    Now that cena is back can they shut up about orton being the face of the company.

  • AlphaMale

    Seems like all this “face of the WWE” stuff will have to come to a head with Cena holding the other title. Maybe they’ll actually go through with unifying the titles?

    • Malboja

      No , if they unify them then it will be even harder for captain super cena to become the 50 time champion he is destined to be lol

      • AlphaMale

        Lol “captain super cena”, that’s great

        • Malboja

          Well 14 time champion I thought it was time for a promotion

        • Malboja

          Well 14 time champion I thought it was time for a promotion

      • Joel Manjarrez

        Ha! Awesome!

  • The Breaker

    As I see it, the central storyline of any title feud should be about the competition between top superstars and determining the next great champion. That is what makes it compelling. But WWE has taken all of that away in the main event. We’ve seen Bryan practically have Orton beat right in the middle of the ring several times over. It wasn’t about who is best in the ring, but instead “How will Bryan get screwed this time?”. You can’t sell a feud on that, much less three consecutive PPVs.

  • BIG M

    Why would any company want to buy TNA.
    Viacom makes billions every year with all the tv they own around the world so whatever TNA’s worth it would be pocket change to them but still why.

    • opie

      WWE might for the library. TNA is pretty much all they don’t own of a lot of guys careers (Hogan, Sting, Flair, etc.)

      • BIG M

        Well there library is probably the only thing TNA’s got going for them.
        Especially the early years 02 to 07 specificly when Sting, Raven, Samoa Joe and Angle went there.
        But even with the work those guys did there at that time period I doubt its worth any kind of significant amount.

        • opie

          10 years of Sting’s career will be worth a lot, especially when he retires and gets inducted into the WWE HOF. Angle’s had some incredible matches there, so same deal with him. There could be a lot of value in that library if WWE Network ever launches.

          • BIG M

            I’m not saying someone couldn’t make money off TNA’s library.
            I’m saying if someone does buy it they won’t have to fork out much.

          • BIG M

            I’m not saying someone couldn’t make money off TNA’s library.
            I’m saying if someone does buy it they won’t have to fork out much.

          • opie

            True. It’s genuinely only valuable to WWE if something happens to TNA. I would argue that it’s more valuable to them than it is to TNA in the first place…

          • opie

            True. It’s genuinely only valuable to WWE if something happens to TNA. I would argue that it’s more valuable to them than it is to TNA in the first place…

    • John

      TNA is one of The highest rated shows on Spike TV.. Why wouldn’t they want to purchase it in order to secure its future?

  • Gary Robert

    I wrote this elsewhere but it makes sense here: It actually makes sense. As much as Bryan is over and people want to see him with the title, the title really means nothing. He’s main eventing and will continue to do so with some sort of story line progression involving HBK and Triple HHH. It basically creates two ,main event story lines…the one Bryan is in and the one Orton is in with the actual title as opposed to one with Bryan with the title.I predict he doesn’t win the belt for a while, and it doesn’t make sense to gibe it to him. Let him ride his wave and elevate a secondary story line into main event level status…he’ll win the belt at Mania after winning the Rumble. Bryan’s hype machine will continue to roll…and when he wins that belt at WM…it will be huge and on the biggest stage there is.

    • Bob’s Diner

      I’ve figured they were going to do this as well; much like WrestleMania XX where they had the longtime IWC favs at the top of the company, I think they are going to give Bryan that ‘big win’ at WrestleMania XXX. My only problem is we’ve already had that special moment where he won the belt at SummerSlam. His 3rd win just doesn’t seem as special

  • Stoney

    I’ve already thought of some traditional survivor series elimination matches:
    Team Kane (Kane, The Miz and Kofi Kingston) vs the Wyatt family)

    Team Punk (CM Punk, Dolph Ziggler, Big E Langston, and The Usos) vs Shield/Paul Heyman guys (Ryback, Curtis Axel, Dean Ambrose, Seth Rollins and Roman Reigns)

  • Stephen Cash

    Richard just so you know an underdog is never supposed to look like they have a chance until they win it out of nowhere. That’s what an underdog is. I think DB vs RKO should be at wrestlemania after DB fueds with HHH and Orton holds the title for a long time to Mania. Then put Bryan over clean, and make him look strong.

    • opie

      Yep. Everything you just said.

    • Bob’s Diner

      According to WWE, John Cena is always the underdog…

    • Bob’s Diner

      According to WWE, John Cena is always the underdog…

  • opie

    Here’s what I’m predicting for tonight:

    Vinny Mac comes in and blows off the Daniel Bryan title hunt and announces some type of tournament or match to determine Orton’s challenger for Survivor Series. Who wins? My guess would be Punk or Ziggler. They’re just about the only guys who could pull off such a quick build, and they’re both pretty much without a program.

    Big E and Ryback have a run-in. They’re bound to face off at SS.

    Bryan announces his intention to go after Trips, which I could see resulting in a traditional SS match of Bryan, Big Show, Cody and Goldie vs. Trips and the Shield. Could add one more to each team, but I’m not sure who.

    Mark Henry returns.
    The champ is blah, blah, blah. Resilience and adversity. Woo. Alberto Del Rio is lifeless and dull. Rematch is announced for SS.
    Cesaro will be awesome somehow.

    Otunga eats a WMD from Big Show. I’m almost 100% on this one. He’ll probably come out as legal counsel to the Authority, possibly leading to him being the fifth guy on the SS team for the heels.
    Creative will somehow not find room on a three-hour program for Wade, PTP, Kidd, or Gabriel, but there will be dancing and a whole mess of talk about Total Divas.

  • Bob’s Diner

    I’m confused; why are people keen to see HHH vs Daniel Bryan? HHH has proved over the last 13 years that very few come out of that situation better off than they were heading in, and given Daniel Bryan has been booked like a total chump for the past few months, I can’t see how that feud would benefit him at all. Beating John Cena clean should be used to make people a really big deal, but instead it almost always leads to feuding with HHH

    • opie

      Then what program would you suggest for Bryan? Trips is pretty much the next logical step in storyline progression, since he IS the top villain in the company.

      • Bob’s Diner

        And this is why they have no new stars – having the same guy as the top villain for the last 13 years.

        This sort of thing is what Brock Lesnar should have been used for; helping establish new stars as big deals. But, oh wait, look who he was used to put over…

        • opie

          Your second point is valid. As for the first…I don’t know. Punk was the top heel not so long ago. Cena is pretty much always at the top of the list of both heels and faces, which is pretty incredible since he the same gimmick gets him over as both. It’s getting about time for a Lesnar return. Maybe we’ll see him come back soon and start something new.

  • Jbreed

    It feels like 2006-2011 all over again when the WWE evolved around John Cena and Randy Orton. I’m almost sure Daniel Bryan didn’t win the championship because the WWE knows he’s more over with the fans than Cena and they know Bryan’s title reign would overshadow Cena’s reign and it’s not what they want. Or maybe the whole “Daniel Bryan doesn’t have the look to be the face of the WWE” storyline actually isn’t really a storyline but it’s the way the WWE really feels.

  • Jbreed

    It feels like 2006-2011 all over again when the WWE evolved around John Cena and Randy Orton. I’m almost sure Daniel Bryan didn’t win the championship because the WWE knows he’s more over with the fans than Cena and they know Bryan’s title reign would overshadow Cena’s reign and it’s not what they want. Or maybe the whole “Daniel Bryan doesn’t have the look to be the face of the WWE” storyline actually isn’t really a storyline but it’s the way the WWE really feels.

    • opie

      Or maybe the championship is just a prop designed to create main event programs, and maybe Bryan doesn’t really need the belt because he’s already on that level.

      • Jbreed

        The WWE championship used to create the new face of the company and it’s really the only title with any prestige left and if they let it become a prop than the WWE might as well call itself a circus rather than wrestling or sports entertainment or whatever it calls itself these days.

      • Jbreed

        The WWE championship used to create the new face of the company and it’s really the only title with any prestige left and if they let it become a prop than the WWE might as well call itself a circus rather than wrestling or sports entertainment or whatever it calls itself these days.

        • opie

          Hmm…I think you’re missing the point. I will agree about the championship being used to create the face of the company, but I honestly think it’s already served exactly that purpose for Bryan. I feel pretty comfortable saying that he’s the face of the company (or was while Cena was away, and is vying for that spot anyway). He doesn’t need the belt. The chase is the story, but there has to be a story after the chase. It seems like a lot of people on here want some type of conclusion, like “Oh, Bryan’s champ now. Show’s over, folks.” But where do you go from there? Who challenges Bryan after that? Where’s the payoff against HHH? Where does Orton go? Into some meaningless feud with Ziggler, or even worse, into a feud with Cena? The story is better with Orton as the champ and someone else to that main event level while DB has what will definitely be a more popular program with HHH.

          • Jbreed

            Daniel Bryan is not the face of the company. He’s the most over guy with the fans but the WWE decides who the face is. The only reason Daniel Bryan has been the top face over the past couple of months is because Cena got injured. I’m convinced the WWE doesn’t have faith in Bryan, or anybody else besides Cena, as the number 1 guy. It’s the way it’s been for years and I don’t think it has changed just because the fans are so into Bryan. To the WWE it’s never what the fans want.

          • opie

            If you got everything you wanted, what reason would you have to keep watching?

          • Jbreed

            I wish I was in charge of WWE creative so I could get everything I want instead of half of the crap going on.

          • opie

            Like what? Bryan as champ? Then what?

          • Jbreed

            Plenty of things actually but as far as the Daniel Bryan discussion goes at least we’ll have a face champion who people actually like. A guy who, unlike Cena and Orton could actually wrestle. A face champion who people haven’t been sick and tired of seeing for the past 7 years. A guy who’s character I like not a guy who’s only liked by 5 to 10 year olds (Cena) or a guy who’s so boring he could cure insomnia (Orton).

          • opie

            I’m 30 and I’m a pretty big fan of Cena, though tbh that’s probably because so many people hate him. But what happens after Bryan’s champ? Where does the story go from there?

          • Jbreed

            It would be up to the creative team to find a direction. Anyway, now Daniel Bryan might still probably be involved in a high profile match against Triple H, and let’s be honest, Triple H most likely won’t put Daniel Bryan over, so where do we go from there? Another question, what’s the upside with Randy Orton as champion?

          • opie

            Orton losing the belt.

          • Bob’s Diner

            HAHA good call

          • opie

            I mean, realistically, every champion loses (unless you’re Bryan, then you just wait till the next night to have it taken away). When Orton loses that belt, it could mean a lot. Say he puts over a guy like Ziggler. That would be HUGE for Ziggler. Bryan’s already made.

          • Bob’s Diner

            Bryan is FAR from made. Look at guys like Ziggler, who were super over and then booked terribly – he gets barely the reaction he got before. That could still happen with Daniel Bryan if things keep going the way they are now, because they are killing his momentum. Hell, the same thing happened to Chris Jericho and he beat Austin and The Rock in one night. It took him a long time to get back to some sort of relevance

          • Bob’s Diner

            By your logic, Steve Austin would have been a bigger star if he had lost the title immediately and then went on to feud with Shane McMahon

          • opie

            I’m speaking relatively. In this case, the belt does nothing for Bryan, whereas Orton being champ offers the opportunity for two top programs going into one of the top ppvs of the year (one with Bryan, one with the champ)

          • Jbreed

            But once you’re done chasing the belt then what? Chasing the heavyweight championship could only last a couple of months than there’s not much left but midcard hell. Being a champion on the other hand means being in the main event for as long as thy let him keep the belt.

    • Danny_Boy

      Lol that’s laughable. How would Bryan overshadow Cena if he can’t even overshadow HBK? Bryan & Punk are only over with a small minority of fans (IWC) everybody else could care less, just look at how bad ratings were with the show focused on Bryan or last year when it was focused on Punk. Then look at ratings from 06-11 when Cena & Orton were on top. The ratings during those years were so much better. The IWC thinks they are bigger then they really are but you guys are just a drop in the bucket

    • Danny_Boy

      Lol that’s laughable. How would Bryan overshadow Cena if he can’t even overshadow HBK? Bryan & Punk are only over with a small minority of fans (IWC) everybody else could care less, just look at how bad ratings were with the show focused on Bryan or last year when it was focused on Punk. Then look at ratings from 06-11 when Cena & Orton were on top. The ratings during those years were so much better. The IWC thinks they are bigger then they really are but you guys are just a drop in the bucket

      • Jbreed

        Are you serious? A lot of the ICW can’t realize what’s going on. The reason why the ratings are so high when Cena is on top is because the 5 to 14 year old fans ask their daddies to let them stay up late and watch Raw. And this is exactly what the WWE wants, to cater to the young fanbase. They would rather sell merchandise than to please an older crowd which doesn’t make sense because during the Attitude Era, when mostly older fans were watching, the ratings were through the roof, and in those days there was actual competition. My point is, the reason why the ratings have been down since Daniel Bryan has been on top is because most of the fans who have tuned out are little kids who usually watch because of John Cena. I’m sure most of the adult fans, like myself, stayed on board because they would rather see Bryan than Cena. So basicalaly as a 41 year old man I’m kind of embarrased to be part of a product dominated by an adolescent audience.

        • opie

          Ratings don’t drive revenue. It doesn’t matter how many people watch the show if the show can’t get advertising. WWE makes far more in ad sales now than they did when ratings were at their highest during the AE.

          • Jbreed

            Ok yet you’re the one who brought up ratings. Anyway now you’re making a laughable arguement. Businesses advertise on shows that people watch the most.

          • opie

            Not sure where exactly you’re seeing that I brought up ratings, but ok. The argument is actually solid. I actually wish Richard Gray would get in on this because he’s talked about it so much. Do you remember who the big advertisers were during the Attitude Era? I remember a whole lot being sponsored by Stacker 2. A lot of higher tier companies didn’t want their products to be affiliated with the on-air product because it was controversial (plus the kids weren’t watching), so they didn’t advertise during Raw. Watch tonight and see who advertises on Raw these days. It’s a different level of companies. Because of that, they make far more revenue off advertising.

      • Bob’s Diner

        Ratings have been steadily declining year after year. In fact, I remember at some point when Orton was feuding with either Cena or HHH, the ratings hit their lowest in 10 years.

        Also, listen to the crowds. Daniel Bryan and CM Punk get bigger ovations than Orton has ever had or ever will have in his career. They also move more merchandise and will no doubt be remembered for being the best of their era, whereas Orton will always be remembered for backstage problems and headlocks

  • _JIM_

    I couldn’t be more excited to hear that TNA is possibly for sale. If Viacom were to buy the company hopefully they would be smart enough to bring in new management. Preferably management with a knowledge of the wrestling business, and a solid track record for success when it comes to being in charge of a wrestling company. Dixie has to go if this company is ever going to succeed imo. If they were to go with more of a traditional “southern” type of presentation with more of a TV-14 flavor I think the sky could be the limit.

  • Brandon Roberts

    wwe needs a better divas division and bring back darker stories and character