John Cena vs. The Rock For The WWE Title Set To Headline Wrestlemania 29?

WWE sent out early promotional material for their Royal Rumble 2013 DVD and it may have spoiled a major creative plan. Under the “Key Selling Points” for the DVD, the following bullet points are made:

  • The Road to Wrestlemania begins here!
  • Historically the highest selling pay-per-view release, behind only Wrestlemania
  • Royal Rumble 2012 sold over 33k united in first 8-wks
  • Buzz is already building after the main event match-up announcement placing two mega-watt Superstars face-to-face for the first time since Wrestlemania 28

The Rock vs. John Cena for the WWE Championship

The folks over at WWE DVD News have the information located at this link.

Obviously this lines up with a plan Vince McMahon has been hot on for the last several months but by no means confirms it. Since the information wasn’t sent directly to us we can only go with what the folks at WWE DVD News reported. Further, plans like this are always subject to change and sometimes do when they are leaked online.

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  • http://twitter.com/abey34 Abey

    I would be wholeheartedly disappointed. If it has to happen just so Cena can win, can’t the WWE title be removed from the picture?

    • Jeff Ono

      The WWE title needs to be added for the very reason that people are complaining about (“Rock-Cena … again?”). Let’s not spit all over the idea on face value. These guys put together a great buildup last year (few could have kept the rants going for a full year), and they had a great match (relative to their abilities). Before we dismiss the matchup, give them a chance to add to the story. The Go-Home sequence at WM 28 was perfect … with Cena taking Rock lightly and mocking the People’s Elbow before being caught. It gives Cena a chance to add some focus and intensity to WM 29. And we’re going to see the Rock bring a new dimension to the rivalry as well. Everyone thinks they know more than Vince McMahon about booking these matches, Just be fans and enjoy the ride.

      • Rayner Chee-bai

        Just, HELL NO! “Once in a lifetime” should just stay as once. Make it twice will turn it redundant and lame as quick as Daniel Bryan’s match at WrestleMania 28. Rock vs Brock please…

  • John

    Just by the way Cena has been booked recently, it’s obvious he is in transitional mode until the Royal Rumble/Wrestlemania buildup. Rock/Cena II is definitely happening!

    Initially i was against it (like everyone else, but now i’m all for it.. Has to happen in my opinion. The Rock going in as WWE champion vs. John Cena, Royal Rumble winner, will be equally as special as last year.

    • Jimmy

      Why does it have to happen? We’ve seen it already, and Cena has been WWE Champ many times before, and in my opinion the match wasn’t all that great. I would enjoy if The Rock faced someone else like Brock Lesnar because we probably won’t see it again.

      • Pluto

        What’s the point of Lesnar/Rock 2. We’ve already seen it, right? And two part timers facing each other who have wrestled 4 times since 04 probably won’t be as good as you and many others may think. Just saying. guys like Rock & Lesnar should be used too elevate guys already on the roster. Lesnar/Rock doesn’t do anything for the long term, it’s just a quick fix scenrio. And if you book Rock/Lesnar, then how would you book Cena, Punk, Taker or Orton against?

        • Jimmy

          So your saying that passing “the torch” to cena is better for the future? Cena is a not a young guy and has already reached his peak, if anyone represents the young guys its punk. So rock/cena doesnt do much for the long term either, and the whole point of WWE bringing back the part timers is not to elevate the young guys, i wish it was but Vince only brought them in for ratings and more fans to watch Wrestlmania because WWE’s fan base has been stumbling.

          • Pluto

            And Punk is only a year younger then Cena. Cena still has plenty of mileage left. And whenever Vince does decide too turn Cena heel that will be HUGE freaking deal. What’s really left for Punk too do that already hasn’t been done. Punk has gone back from switching between heel & face plenty of times since 2009 so another turn by punk won’t generate a 12th of the buzz that a Cena turn would.

          • Jimmy

            As much as i would love to see cena turn heel, lets be realistic, it’s never going to happen and if it does then i’ll need to see it to believe it but until then cena is nothing more than a played out gimmick still trying to swing for the fence and missing everytime.

          • Pluto

            It’ll happen, trust me. If Rock & Hart returned too the WWE then a Cena heel turn at some point is inevitable

          • Pluto

            Cena hasn’t missed anything. If being the top dawg in the wrestling industry for eight years is “missing everytime” then please tell me what your definition of successful is. Oh and BTW, only Hogan & Austin have been bigger draws then Cena.

          • Jimmy

            So losing to the rock, losing to john lauranitis, getting beat up by brock lesnar, being the first person to lose a MITB title match, losing the triple threat title match and losing to Dolph is a successful year???

          • Pluto

            Cena has had a very successful career. You said he “always misses”. How is being the top guy in the WWE for eight years and running considered “always missing”?

          • Jimmy

            Read my comment properly next time, i said he’s ‘still trying to swing for the fence’ meaning that he used to be the man around WWE but lately he has done nothing impressive

          • steve pritchard

            Why because his character is dry as a desert! The only people who like cena right now are kids, women and rookie.wrestling fans most long time fans like myself feel like he’s being shoved down our throats like Hogan! Don’t get me wrong he has potential to be great! But under the current situation he’s nothing more than a face to sell merchandise to snot nosed kids just like Hogan! Hell put him against taker that would be awesome and would probably do alot to help repackage his character! You cena fan boys are hilarious! How you defend this guys character when he gets booed out of every arena he visits even his hometown! Very poor booking decision by wwe! Hope ryback dominates rumble!

          • Pluto

            Who you calling fan boy, I’m probably older then you and have been watching wrestling longer then you. You cena haters crack me up. For the last 8 years all you guys do is cry & complain about Cena but yet you guys still take the time out of your day too watch wrestling. If you hate Cena so much and feel he’s being shoved down your throat then why watch wrestling in the 1st place? GO watch TNA instead, you ‘don’t have too worry about “Cena being shoved down your throat”. But you and the rest of the Cena haters won’t do that because it makes too much sense. You guys need something too nag about for the sake of nagging. Arguing with a Cena hater is like arguing with a female, you guys deal in emotion. There is no logic behind your guys’ thoughts.

          • steve pritchard

            Buddy Im 32 years old was watching wrestling before taker was a skyscraper with dangerous Dan spivey so u need get your panties out of a wad cena sucker! Second of all u reaffirmed what I said in my comment! U cena fanboys are delusional! Besides where in my comment was I trashing cena being in the main event if u get ur hooked on phonics out and learn to read I believe I said I don’t care if cena is in the main event.besuides I think its a little bit past your bedtime. Don’t drink any sodas don’t want u to pee in the bed.

          • Pluto

            38 bro, was watching wrestling when Hogan was Thunder Lips. You Cena Haters still crack me up. Don’t forget too put away your blow up doll so your mommy sees it.

          • Guest

            Before you tell me or anybody that they need too get hooked on phonics you should learn how too spell besides. It’s besides not “besuides’ you dumbass

          • steve pritchard

            Sorry about my typing. If u new wead. Ye wide no it was a mitake.u brainless idiot! I think the hand lotion and cena poster is calling u.

          • Jimmy

            Why watch wrestling if we dont wanna see cena? you act john cena is the WWE? i watch WWE to see talented in ring athletes such as CM Punk, Dolph Ziggler, Daniel Bryan, Sheamus. Can you please give me a valid argument as to why we should respect him other than the fact of him being a nice guy? i dont find his matches to have a better than average rating anymore and i find his promos completely un-entertaining.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeremy-Gordon/1423005919 Jeremy Gordon

            Piss poor grammar, how typical.

          • Jimmy

            Lol you replied to a comment from 3 months ago? Is that how desperate you are for attention?

          • steve pritchard

            Yeah a blow up doll that look s, sounds and tastes a lot like ur girlfriend. Oh wait ur only 12 ur cohones haven’t even dropped yet! I got a job and a life, house, wife and kids to see in the morning keep eating ur Wheaties and u might have the same one day.38 my ass maybe 38 months. No adult would write that stupid crap u write! Ur nothing more than a troll I hope mean mark Collis heart punches u in ur sleep. U probably looked that crap about Hogan on the internet! Don’t care about cena! Never have never will u should get a life or a new toy or something. I would love to keep burning u but I don’t want ur mommy to get mad. So glad to rant with you but ill go back to living my life now.so go back to bed and don’t forget take ur vitamins and go to

          • Pluto

            Oh you got a wife & kids? My ass you do, the Sims don’t count homie. And learn how too spell. You spell like a 12 year female. But you know what, I should not be mad at you, It’s really your daddy I’m mad at. If he’s condom would not have busted I would not have too sit up here and read all your dumb rants. Good day sir.

          • WyFo

            Bro, you didn’t burn shit. Shut up because your insults are worse than Cena’s.

          • Anarchy

            You’re 32 yet you spell you’re “ur”, You “u”, I’ll quote you ”Ur nothing more than a troll I hope mean mark Collis heart punches u in
            ur sleep. U probably looked that crap about Hogan on the internet! Don’t
            care about cena! Never have never will u should get a life or a new toy
            or something.”
            What adult in his/her right mind would write something as childish as this over the internet.
            I feel sorry for your “wife, and children that you wake up to see in the morning”

          • Pluto

            LOL.

          • steve pritchard

            U just. Keep trying little buddy! Like your gay lover. Cena said never give up never back down. U sound more and more pathetic with each comment u make! Get a life fanboy

      • John

        The problem with The Rock vs. Brock Lesnar is that both are a) part time workers & b) both are leaving WWE following RAW after Mania.

        Rock/Cena makes sense, due to what happened last year with Rock going over. We had Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels 2 years running, & Undertaker vs. HHH 2 years running.. So why not Rock/Cena? It’s not like we have to endure another year long build-up, & i’m sure they will build it better this time around rather than promo after promo after promo like last year.

        • Jimmy

          Taker/HBK and Taker/HHH were epic matches that people would want to see again, Cena/Rock was not as good as Taker/HHH or Taker/HBK and it will not be a better match this year. Punk/Rock had a fairly long build up and i am extremely excited to see that match. and whatever happened to cena saying that if he loses to the rock he has nothing, its over for him? they added a stipulation which seemed like if cena lost he would quit but nothing happened. the only way they can give this match life is with an epic stipulation which i hope that they come up with

        • http://twitter.com/thepowerserge thepowerserge

          Why not Rock v Cena 2, you ask? How about because, unlike the Undertaker matches vs HBK or Triple H, their first encounter was billed as “Once In A Lifetime.” How in the blue hell does a rematch make any sense at all? The only way I could even remotely watch Rock & Cena in another match at WM would be if they somehow included CM Punk (maybe as the winner of the Rumble?).

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeremy-Gordon/1423005919 Jeremy Gordon

            “Once in a Lifetime” is simply called MARKETING. It’s what a business does. WM rematches are very much a part of wrestling.

        • Will

          Because remember them saying for one whole year was once in a lifetime so that would take away from the whole concept

  • Chad

    I think everyone knew this was coming the second the Rock beat Cena last year. What other reason could their be for Cena going under other than to set up a rematch?

  • Guest

    perfect set up! and then have crab win at WM29

    • Dangerous Lee

      I’d much rather see a crab win at WM than Cena.

  • The Breaker

    Rock vs Cena II is way too obvious.. I’m more likely to believe Vince changes his mind daily over things like this.

    • John

      I have a hard time believing that the WWE doesn’t know what the Wrestlemania main event matches will look like!

      I’ve said before, & i shall stick by my prediction that it will be Rock vs. Cena, Punk vs. Undertaker & Lesnar vs. Triple H as the marquee matches.

      • Pluto

        I’m really hoping Austin will be their too put Punk over. I’d love too see the Attitude era stars (Rock & Austin) finally put over the current stars (Cena & Punk).

  • disqus_frKqued9eB

    Or, Cena over Rock at Mania for the title, crowd is pissed, Ziggler cashes in, crowd goes wild! To close the show.

    • http://www.facebook.com/phil.garrie Phil D. Garrie

      Ziggler can not cash in on the wwe title just the world heavyweight aka currently Alberto Del Rio.

      • TheShawnReed

        Ohhhh yeah, whoops lol

      • http://www.facebook.com/charlie.hannesson Charlie Crimefighter Hannesson

        Not true wwe always changes things and they can make up an excuse that’s their logic..

        • http://www.facebook.com/phil.garrie Phil D. Garrie

          I like it how it used to be where there was one briefcase and only one winner and it could be used on either title.

      • Jimmy

        I’d like to see Ziggler win the Rumble and become WH and WWE champ at mania. But the chances of Dolph being the highlight of Wrestlemania as apposed to Vince’s beloved Rock or Undertaker are extremely slim

  • http://twitter.com/Mathew30 Mathew Lisett

    Im so not interested in this match, its about as boring as if hogan came back and did ANYTHING.

  • Pluto

    I don’t know why everybody is shitting on a potential Cena/Rock 2 match up. Most of the IWC seem too have a very short memory when it comes too WM rematches. I remember everybody shitting on the HHH/Taker 2 (techinally 3) before it happened last year only too walk away from the match saying it was the MATCH OF THE YEAR. And the reason HHH/Taker from WM28 topped their encounter from WM27 was because of the added stipulation of HBK as the special guest ref and HIAC. I’m pretty sure the same could be said for Cena/Rock, you already have the added stipulation of the strap and I’m sure their will be another twist in the plot aswell. This feud still has so much life too it, and who knows maybe Cena wins dirty and in the process turns heel. Not that I would bet money on that happening but I’m sure Cena/Rock 2 will be head & shoulders above the match from a year ago.

    • The Breaker

      A ‘Special Guest Referee’ stipulation does a lot more to freshen up a match than add a title to the mix.

  • Alex P

    I wouldn’t mind seeing a rematch…but let’s be serious…there’s no way they can actually book this rematch and not have Cena come out as champ right? That’s the only reason why I hate this idea…the fact that Cena basically has to win that match especially after going under last year.

    • Pluto

      If you hate that fact that you already know that Cena will win then shouldn’t you hate every Undertaker match at WM because you already know the outcome.

      • Alex P

        That’s a very true point you make…but at the same time at least Taker and whoever he has faced over the past few years especially (I’m talking the HBK and HHH matches) have put on such good matches that they actually give the viewer some doubt as to whether or not he will win. Basically what I’m saying is, Taker’s matches at Mania are always far more entertaining than Cena’s (just my opinion).

        I mean I guess the main part I’m not liking about the concept of Rock/Cena II is that I kind of saw this outcome coming from the moment Rock said he would face the WWE champ at the rumble a while back. Anyway if the whole Cena winning outcome happens, I think the only way to really legitimize it, is for the WWE to finally man-up and turn Cena heel following the match.

        • Pluto

          Valid points. I’m not sure how long you’ve been a wrestling a fan but I can recall quite a few Taker WM matches that weren’t all that good especially his stuff from the pre-attitude era. (Jimmy Snuka, Jake Roberts, Giant Gonzalez, Kane Pt.1 & 2, Mark Henry, King Kong Bundy, Diesel & Sid) matches weren’t very good at all.
          Cena has had some duds in their as well with guys likw (JBL & Miz) but other then that Cena has pretty much knocked it out of the park. I actually felt that Cena/HHH was better then Taker/HHH on the other hand I felt that Taker/HBK was better then Cena/HBK.

          • Alex P

            Oh yeah, I fully agree and I’ve been a fan since the mid 90′s (from what I truly remember). That’s why I pinpointed the past four years in particular for Taker matches. I hate on John Cena just like everyone else, but at the end of the day, the guy is just a flat out work horse and I mean he isn’t the greatest in terms of in-ring ability but he has had flares of excellence (such as the Cena/HHH match you mentioned which by the way I happen to have liked more than the Taker match as well).

            While the Taker storyline is more predictable in terms of the fact that who is ever going to break that streak, I just feel that especially over the past few years (I think part of it is that he’s in the twilight of his career and he could actually put over a younger star) Taker’s story/matches are more entertaining for me than Cena’s…especially if it’s a story involving Cena overcoming the odds to win a title which has been basically his gimmick since 2005 when he won his first world title.

      • Jimmy

        Not in the last 4 years you didn’t

    • Jimmy

      Ever since The Rock said he would be back for the title at Royal Rumble, his story line has been very predictable, from facing CM Punk which we knew would happen to facing Cena at mania which will happen aswell

  • Michael

    I have no problem with this rematch if you’re a smart wrestling there has to be a rematch in order for cena to be credible. Rock has to put Cena over in order to pass the torch. They did Austin/Rock three times at mania before he put Rock over and passed the torch. I see Rock/Cena II Austin/Punk, Taker/Lesnar, Ryback world champion, money in the bank with Antonio or Daniel winning.

    • Jimmy

      MITB doesn’t happen at Wrestlemania anymore, and The Rock/Austin matches were way more epic than anything Cena can be apart of.

      • Pluto

        The first Rock/Austin match at WM15 wasn’t that good, WM17 encounter was epic, and the WM19 was good but far from great.

        Cena/HHH was very good, and Cena going over HHH was a suprise too most. Most thought HHH was going too win the title back. The fan reaction too that match was great as well. Cena/HBK was really good as well, great build aswell. And WM23 with Cena/HBK headlining is the highest grossing WM of all-time.
        Oh and Cena/Rock was a pretty damn big deal and epic, so I have too disagree. And ended yp becoming the 2nd highest grossing WM ever. That’s two WM’s that had better buyrates then any of the other WMs futuring Austin/Rock as the main event.

        • Jimmy

          WM28 was not the 2nd highest grossing because of Cena being in the mainevent, it was because of The Rock. Rock could have mainevented with big show and still got as much money, and your forgetting that WM23 had a match featuring Undertaker vs Batista which was the reason that I watched WM23, Cena/HBK was good but it wasnt the reason for it being the highest grossing WM

          • Pluto

            Then please tell me, what was the reason? Cena being involved in WM had just as much too do with WM selling as much as Rock. You think Rock/Punk, Rock/Orton would of grossed higher then Rock/Cena?

          • Jimmy

            I definitely think that if a majority of the WWE universe wasn’t a bunch of little kids who love cena then yes punk/rock or orton/rock would be far more grossing and entertaining.

          • Pluto

            There are plenty of Cena fans who are adults. I currenly serve for the Navy, and let me tell you that most the guys I work with are pro wrestling fans like me & you and they have mad love for Cena. We respect the dedication he’s put into the business and the fact that he appreciates his fans. Honestly though I have mad love for Punk, Sheamus and most of these other guys who take the craft of wrestling serious and work hard.

          • Jimmy

            I agree 100% that John Cena is a highly dedicated worker and appreciates the fans, i have respect for John Cena as a person. I just find his in ring ability to be extremely played out showcasing the same routines week in and week out and displays the same gimmicky promos.

          • Pluto

            And let’s be real here, Rock/Show would not do half the buys that Rock/Cena would, c’mon bro your smarter then that so let’s not make ridiculous statements.

          • Jimmy

            You can’t say im wrong because these are just opinions, and in my opinion John Cena to face the rock just doesnt move me i’m sorry. All i see from him is the same routine in matches week in and week out this superman gimmick can only last so long.

          • Pluto

            And saying Show/Rock would be a bigger draw then Cena/Rock isn’t an opinion. It’s a over the top statement that me & you both know isn’t true. People like you refuse too give Cena credit for anything he does. No matter what he does you & all the rest of the cena haters are gonna shit on it. If he has a great match, like the one tonight with Ziggler you guys will say “well Cena got carried or that he barried his opponent because he won” or if he loses you guys will say “see I told you Cena sucks”. It’s hating for the sake of hating, there is no real rational thought or no real educated opinion. it’s the same ol same ol with you Cena haters, I can present facts & truth too you guys all day & all night and you guys wil still find a way a too discredit all the good Cena has ever done.

          • Jimmy

            It is because it shows that it is my opinion that i feel show/rock would be better than rock/cena. and u seem to be misunderstanding everything. I respect cena and what he has done, and yes he was put on some great matches. John Cena vs CM Punk 2011 and the MITB PPV is one of my most favourite matches. what im saying is that Cena was great and now is repetitive and has done nothing to impress lately. Yes Cena vs Ziggler is good but how many times can a guy watch the same match without cena showing the same routine. Dolph does not carry cena but he can improvise with new moves and keep the flow of the match. Cena is either getting beat up or doing the same moves.

          • John

            The Donald Trump/Vince McMahon storyline sold Wrestlemania 23, not Cena, HBK, Undertaker or Batista.

            Wrestlemania 28 was the highest grossing event of all time.. beating Wrestlemania 23 by over $3m, so not sure where you got that information.

        • Michael

          You sound like a Cena hater. The guy may not be the best technical wrestler in the world but the guy can give a show stealing match when needed. The matches he’s had with Punk were epic not just because of Punk it takes two. As Jimmy said below his matches with Michaels and Hunter were epic. Cena and Orton have also had some classic matches. He’s also had epic matches with Edge and Jericho. You know nothing about wrestling so stop putting your foot in your mouth. You mentioned Batista below do you really think that Batista was a better wrestler then Cena no. I’ve just named a few epic matches that Cena has had the guy is money no matter how many haters he has he sells tickets.

          • Pluto

            Preach. It’s really hard too talk too Cena haters sometimes. They hardly use logic & rational thinking when discussing wrestling. They think with emotion (similar too a female).

          • Jimmy

            How can you be entertained by Cena when you know what’s coming from him every time? Punch, Shoulder block, 5 Knuckle Shuffle, AA. That’s it. the only that changes is the outcome of the match so you might aswell fast forward to the end of every cena match. Let me take you back to WWE TLC 2012: John Cena vs Dolph Ziggler. this was the moment that really showed me that cena can not improvise on moves, it was about half way through this long match and cena had used up all 4 or 5 of his tricks. and then Cena hit Dolph with a Hurricarana. Im sure to a Cena fan such as yourself you probably thought “Oh my god that was amazing Cena did a high flyer move” but it didn’t move me at all. It just showed his lack of thinking on his feet as a WWE wrestler even being there for so many years, he had to use a move that was out of his element. We might aswell just start seeing rey knock down big show with a clothesline right?

          • Michael

            Once again for the last time I’m not a Cena fan nor am I a Cena hater. Almost every wrestler has a limited move set that they used. I just got done watching The Rock DVD on wwe classics and he does the same moves almost the whole match. Rock uses more punches then moves, the ending is almost always the same when he wins he hits the spinebuster, which leads to the peoples elbow or he catches them in the Rock bottom. My favorite wrestler is and will always be Austin understood. Secondly as I’ve said before Hogan the guy considered by most to be the greatest wrestler of all time has admitted that he can’t wrestle he only knows maybe one move. Yet he’s the biggest wrestler in the world. Point of this is it didn’t matter how many moves Hogan knew he put butts in the seats which Cena does every week. Not only does Cena put people in seats he improves ratings. Go check out past ratings of shows without Cena then look at shows with Cena and that will show you what Cena means to Wwe. You people that hate Cena are dumb for one you don’t even know this man personally. Two hate is a strong word that should only be used against somebody that has done you wrong. It didn’t matter how many moves he does or doesn’t whenever you buy a ppv or ticket you put money in his bank account. Now I do agree that Cena needs a character change, I wouldn’t mind seeing Cena becoming a heel for a few years form a stable that helps him keep the title on him and him telling all of the haters to kiss his butt. I think that if done perfectly Cena could be one of the best heels in history but I don’t hold my breathe because Vince thinks it will mess up his cash cow. You people shouldn’t hate Cena because the guy does a lot of charity work and that in my view is reason enough to not hate the guy because he doesn’t have to do does things but he does anyway. I don’t see Punk or any other wrestler or athlete doing this so chew on that.

          • Jimmy

            Once again you fail to read my comment correctly. Every wrestler might have a limited move-set but that doesn’t mean they can’t improvise with new moves to fit the routine especially in PPV matches. Not once did i say that The Rock or Hulk Hogan was good. I like the Rock because of his mic skills (Cena is not entertaining nor funny on the mic) and i dont like hogan. I’m talking about guys like Dolph Ziggler and CM Punk who are more entertaining in the ring, and not once did i say in any of my comments that i “hate” Cena, so your rant about hate being a strong word was pointless. I respect Cena as a PERSON he does alot for the company outside the ring and i definitely don’t “hate” him however i do find his in ring ability lack-luster. He is not entertaining to me on the mic or when he wrestles and now hopefully you can read my comment properly and understand the point i am trying to make.

          • Michael

            I agree with that guys like Punk, Daniel, Ziggler, Lesnar, and others can wrestling but wwe isn’t about who can wrestle the best but who can put folks in the seats. Hogan did it, Austin did it, Lesnar does it, Rock does it, and Cena does it. The guy makes some lame pg jokes only because he’s told to keep it pg, remember when he was a heel back before he became wwe champion. Cena cut some great rated r promos. You talk about Cena mic work but Punks not that great and Rocks stuff in my view has been lame. Cookie PUss really really that’s lame. Cena is the wwe,, without him they struggle. You have no idea what it takes to do what Cena does 360 days a year the guy is the work horse of the company. And the fact that you made the statements that you’ve made prove that you’re a hater mark.

          • http://www.facebook.com/raven.johnson.10441 Raven Johnson

            I’d be all for Cena being the leader of The Shield and winning WM and the 4 together.. Now that would be a swerve for the books.

    • Snap

      Okay, I’m not a fan of Cena but how does he need to beat The Rock in order to be “credible”? Not only has he been on top of the WWE longer than The Rock ever has, he has also held the WWE championship (both in terms of the length of a single reign AND combined reigns) and main evented more PPVs than The Rock has. I would say “the torch” has long since been passed as The Rock is basically just a nostalgia act now and Cena’s at the point in his career where he would be more valuable giving the younger members of the roster that main event credibility.

      It kinda comes across the same way as Cena telling Punk that his title reign is insignificant because he’s not facing Cena. Punk doesn’t need Cena to validate his title reign, just like Cena doesn’t need to beat The Rock to validate what HE has accomplished. To say Cena needs to beat the Rock to be credible would be like saying Punk needs to beat Bruno Sammartino to be a legitimate champion.

      Why is it people have this idea that not being a fan of Cena and voicing that opinion (hey, if we cannot voice our disapproval of Cena then Cena FANS should not be able to voice their support. You can’t just stick your fingers in your ears and chant “Lalalalala” to drown out opposing viewpoints you don’t want to acknowledge) makes our arguments irrelevant or that we “know nothing about wrestling”? Yes, Cena is currently the WWE’s top draw, there’s no disputing that, but it’s simply not good enough if he only has good or show stealing matches with Triple H or HBK or Edge or Ziggler, as “the guy” in WWE he should have show stealing matches with everybody he’s in the ring with and his opponents should look good being in the ring with him. When he goes out there and makes it look like there is absolutely no way his opponent could ever hope to beat him (making all of Ziggler’s best moves look like nothing comes to mind here) and wins clean without losing clean himself (unless that person happens to be The Rock) then he damn sure deserves the criticism.

      Furthermore, simple criticism is NOT “hating.” Hating would be arguing with nothing more than “Cena sucks! Nyah!!!” While those types of fans can be annoying to deal with, so can the Cena fans who are so blind in their love of Cena that they can’t accept others don’t like their hero nor can they accept the criticism they give. Yet those are the SAME people who hate on Punk.

      You see, I’m a Punk fan but I know he isn’t perfect and may not be a pleasant person to encounter in public. I don’t care about that stuff, I like Punk for what he delivers on the show and how he is outside has no bearing on that, neither does all of Cena’s charity work or how many wishes he grants have any bearing on how I perceive him ON. THE. SHOW. It’s irrelevant and people should really stop using it to justify why Cena should be appreciated in the ring. It’s great that he does it, but it shouldn’t be exploited on WWE’s vanity cards and should be a special moment between Cena and every kid he allows to meet their hero, not something WWE can exploit whenever they see fit.

      The reason Rock/Cena produced the buys that it did was not only because it was Rock’s first one-on-one match in seven years, but the heat which was presented between the two in the media for years before that. It all finally came to a head and people wanted to see the result. A rematch isn’t going to generate the same interest, it certainly holds no interest for me, ESPECIALLY if it was to involve the WWE championship. If it were to happen, Punk vs. Austin would be what would interest me, because there’s already a story behind it and it would be FRESH. Undertaker vs. Lesnar would be fresh. Undertaker vs. Punk would be fresh.

      But, I guess I don’t know what I’m talking about because I don’t like Cena,

      • Michael

        Once again you’re proving me right. First off I never claimed to be a fan of Cena in fact Stone Cold is my all time favorite wrestler over everybody, my current favorite is Ryback so get that straight. Second you just showed how much of a mark you truly are. You said that Cena doesn’t sell a guy like Ziggler’s moves like he’s trying to hurt his career fact wwe is fake Cena is doing what he’s told to do by Vince you idiot. If you knew anything about wrestling which you don’t then you would know that. I don’t know how old you are but here’s a history lesson. Go back to the Hogan era look at the talent he faced he no sold a lot of moves and the guy couldn’t wrestle a lick he admitted it. Fast forward to Wrestlemania X8 Hogan/Rock I Hogan even though Rock was already a huge star passed the torch. Go to the next wrestlemania the Rocks last mania in a singles match before last year Austin passed the torch and respect to Rock by letting him beat him. This has nothing to do with age or how big a star is, Cena has had a hof career but honesty if Rock had never beaten Austin at mania then he would’ve gone into the hof without ever proving that he was on Austins level. Cena kept saying that he had to beat Rock that if he didn’t nothing he had done mattered. So Cena has to go over other wise the biggest star in the looks weak because he can’t beat a guy who hadn’t wrestled full time in years and only had one match before theirs. Learn your history mark before you attempt to debate me hater lol.

        • Jimmy

          Cena already LOST to The Rock genius, so if nothing mattered why did he just continue his career and completely forget about the loss. A rematch this year would mean absolutely nothing to me, if this match happens than WM29 main event will be a disappointment when they can have Take, Punk, Lesnar or anyone else in the main event. “Once In A Lifetime: Part II” the title itself makes no sense, the whole point of the match being so big last year was because it would never happen again. “Supposedly”

          • Michael

            What are you talking about remember Rock/Hogan I it was supposed to be a once in a lifetime match with a past vs future build. Rock won and they had a rematch a few years later and I know that Cena can put on a better match then Hogan. What about the three wrestlemania matches that Taker had with HHH or the two with HBK and Kane. You say that you’re tired of seeing Cena matches where you know the outcome well you should be tired of the streak because we all know it will never end. And I disagree that every Cena match is known nobody thought that two years ago in Chicago Cena would lose to Punk but he did. Nobody thought Cena would best lesnar but he did. Nobody thought Cena would lose to Rock last year but he did. Everybody thought that Cena was going to win the title when he cashed in the mitb but he didn’t. A few years ago when Cena returned and won the Rumble everybody thought he would beat Orton the next month and he didn’t they then thought he would win at mania but he didn’t. So every Cena match isn’t known you mark. History lesson you’re welcome.

          • Jimmy

            Are you even reading my comments? can you even read at all? I clearly said that “the only thing that changes is the outcome of the match” meaning the person that wins and loses, i’m saying that the match is the same every week but the winners change. Your either talking without thinking first or your just an idiot who can’t read comments properly.

          • Michael

            And if you can read then you would see that I said that everybody does the same moves. Punk does the knees and the macho man elbow which I’m tired of. You guys that hate Cena need to grow up.

          • Snap

            You’re right, ever wrestler has their signatures. Hogan had the Big Boot and Legdrop, Rock has the People’s Elbow and Rock Bottom, Punk has the Elbow and the GTS and Anaconda Vise, Cena has his Five Moves of Doom (the sequence, not his TOTAL moveset).but just as you are free to complain about the moves Punk uses, others are free to complain about the moves Cena uses.

            If, as you have stated above, you’re not really a fan of Cena, why does it bother you so much? It doesn’t bother me that there are people who don’t like or respect CM Punk, why should it? It certainly doesn’t bother me that there are people who love Cena, we’re all have the same right to support who appeals to us. Cena haters AND rabid Cena fans alike take things way too far. For every “Cena sux!!!” you’ll get a “OMG! Cena is the best!!!!” and it’s usually those type of people who resort to throwing insults around to compensate for the lack of substance in their “arguments.”

            So… I think everybody overrates their favourites. It’s just the more rabid varieties are more vocal about it.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeremy-Gordon/1423005919 Jeremy Gordon

            Complaining about moves is dumb, wrestling is not about how many wrestling moves you know.do. This is a problem with this generation’s wrestling fan, their ignorance.

          • Jimmy

            Punk only started doing the elbow in early 2011 Cena has had the same move-set since 2005.

          • Michael

            So punk only added one new move in two years, but before that he only had like three signature moves. You proved nothing.

          • Pluto

            Who cares about the title honestly. How many times has McMahon key-fabed fired people only for them too return? The answer is plenty. McMahon once key-fabed buried Taker and he came back. Taker once key-fabed buried Paul Bearer only for him too came back. How many times has a match been billed as “THE BIGGEST MATCH IN WM HISTORY” only for the WWE too market too label another match six months later as such? The answer again is plenty of times. Remember when Edge beat Taker at ONS 2008 and the stipulation was if he lost then he would be banned from the WWE forever only for him too return at SummeSlam 2008? Did you have a problem with all that aswell? The Once In The Life Time label is just another way of saying their will never be a match as big as this one. Not once was it ever said that Cena & Rock would never wrestle each other again, so I don’t really understand why that is such a big deal too you and so many other people on this site honestly.

        • Snap

          The problem here is you are doing NOTHING to make people take what you say seriously, insulting people and calling them a “mark” or a “hater” for having a differing opinion pretty much invalidates any otherwise valid points you may have made.

          Yes, Cena went on about how he HAD to beat Rock or else nothing he had done previously mattered, but do you really believe he ACTUALLY felt that way? Of course not, it was all part of the story to build the importance of the match.

          By your argument, however, NOBODY has ever proven there are an elite star in WWE because nobody who has ever faced the Undertaker at WrestleMania has beaten him. Not Randy Orton, not Triple H, not HBK and not even Ric Flair. Neither Stone Cold, Rock nor Cena have ever faced Taker at WrestleMania either, so does not having beaten him at WrestleMania tarnish their legacies in any way?

          You’ve even admitted that what happens in WWE is Vince’s call, so whether Cena lost or won against The Rock in their “Once in a Lifetime” match doesn’t mean anything when it comes to either of their legacies. While Cena’s fans won’t like the outcome, they’re not going to stop being Cena’s fans because he didn’t beat Rock. And while Rock did beat Austin at WrestleMania 19, Austin also beat Rock at both of their prior meetings at WrestleMania 15 and 17, both times for the WWF championship. Austin didn’t “let” Rock beat him, Rock was booked to win, just as Austin was booked to win when he beat HBK for his first WWF championship at WrestleMania 14.

          The thing with WWE and WrestleMania is when there is celebrity involvement, and Rock qualifies now more as a celebrity than “WWE Superstar,” the celebrity ALWAYS wins. Lawrence Taylor, Akebono, Donald Trump (via Lashley), Mickey Rourke (despite his representatives actually losing the match, he did lay Jericho out), Floyd Mayweather, Snooki… the celebrity ALWAYS gets the win at WrestleMania. With Cena, you could actually argue that he “beat himself” when he decided to try and mock the People’s Elbow when he had Rock down. Rock just happened to “pull a Cena” and pop to his feet to deliver his finisher for the win.

          Despite the insults peppered in, I respect the argument you’re trying to make though I don’t agree with it. Whether people like Cena or they hate him, his loss to The Rock didn’t do anything to change their perception of him or his accomplishments.

          • Michael

            I’m glad you’ve read my post snap however you really didn’t understand what I was saying. I’m not saying that to Cena the person it matters I’m saying that the Cena in storyline it matters. I get what you are saying completely however what I was saying is that Cena only does what Vince directs him to do. The reason I called those people that continue to complain every week about Cena this and Cena that marks is because they really take this seriously so much so that they hate the guy. I read one time where somebody wished that Cena were dead now come on that’s taking it to far. That’s the reason I go as hard as I do. Do I like Cena yes because he helps keep the business that I grew up on for 29 years going. He’s the key nut that keeps the wwe churning at this current moment. I understand that it just entertainment but a lot of others don’t and that makes then idiots and marks. Take my grandmother for example she’s 69 and two years ago I got her into wwe. Now I love her to death and I realize that she’s getting older, she’s my best friends other then my wife I talk to her everyday. We talk about wrestling and no matter how many times I’ve explained to her that wrestling is fake and everything happens because Vince tells them to by the next week she forgets what I told her. She really thinks that somebody hired the shield to beat people up for real lol bless her heart. She gets mad at the big show and says the entire locker room should come out and kick his tail I just laugh, the point I’m trying to make is that she’s old the people that come on here are young and know better. They’ve been watching wrestling longer then her. I’ve been watching since 83 and I’ve seen almost every video wwe has ever put out,I have classics on demand I have the video games I’m a fan to my heart when elimination chamber comes to my home town next month I’ll be there wrestling is my hobby even when it’s not on but I know that everything that happens is all scripted these other people don’t. Can punk wrestle hell yeah can Cena wrestle no but he can entertain which is what people forget wwe is all about entertaining. Wwe doesn’t worry about who could wrestle better then who not even the fans care because they buy tickets to be entertained not sit through a one to two hour match like in the 50′s and 60′s & 70′s they want to see guys like Ryback destroy somebody. Guys like Punk drop pipebombs guys like Cena lose and overcome adversity guys like Ziggler steal the show and above all else be entertained. Let me know of you understand me better now that I’ve explained.

      • Pluto

        See here’s the thing. You say that Cena has only delieved in the ring with guys like Triple H, Edge, HBK or Ziggler. And that’s where I strongly disagree. Check out his stuff with Orton in 07 & 09 (SummerSlam 07, SummerSlam 09, HIAC 2009, Bragging Rights Iron Man Match 2009), or his Royal Rumble 2007 Last Man Standing Match with Umaga, or (his Great American Bash 2007 match against Lashley), RVD at ECW ONS 2006 and I haven’t even mentioned the great chemistry he has with Big Show. And I find it ironic that Punk fans are so harsh o Cena seeing how Cena went out of his way too HELP put Punk over in 2011 (MITB 2011 & SummerSlam 2011) You can make a strong case that Punk’s best feuds since coming too the WWE in 2006 have been against Cena. That Cena/Punk feud in 2011 was fire. That’s really the feud that legitimized Punk as a TOP GUY for good, before that he was kind of a gate keeper between upper mid card/top guy.

        And Cena has put over plenty of people CLEAN (HHH at NOC 2008, JBL at GAB 2008, Orton at HIAC 2009, Sheamus (for his first title win at TLC 2009, Batista at SummerSlam 2008, HBK in that near long Iron Man Match on RAW. And that’s just the tip of the iceberg. Cena puts over way more people then most give him credit for and if you want me too point out more examples then I will. The man hasn’t held a title since mid 2011 so too say the man doesn’t make his opponents look credible and that he always win isn’t really accruate IMO. And what did you think of his mic work against Rock in their near long feud? IMO Cena got the better of the Rock in the majority of their promos which came as a shock too people I know who follow wrestling.

        Don’t me wrong, I respect your opinions, you atleast take the time too back up why you feel the way you do instead of the usual Cena Sucks just because crap. I just feel a lot of HATE for Cena by the majority of the IWC is really unwarranted at this point. The man works his ass off, doesn’t take time off unless it’s too heal from a major injury which he usually comes back months early from. Remember the injury in late 07 that was suppose too keep him out of action for a year? He came back WAY AHEAD of schedule from that.
        There I pointed out reasons why I think Cena is a great worker without bringing up any make a wish stuff.

  • Stoney

    a rematch involving John Cena? that means one thing……. Cena’s gonna win

  • http://www.facebook.com/dave.capano1 Dave Capano

    not that i’m against rock/cena II, i’m just against rematches of the previous years wrestlemania. It’s just lazy booking IMO, instead of trying something different and actually writing a decent storyline, they play the safe card.

    • Pluto

      So did you hate the rematches of Taker/HBK & Taker/HHH?

      • http://www.facebook.com/dave.capano1 Dave Capano

        i didn’t hate them they were good matches, i’m just a not of fan of revisting something that was done already at the previous years mania, if they skipped a year and then let it build again that would be fine

    • John

      But other than the “once in a lifetime” tagline, & the special feel around the match itself.. The build-up to last years match between Rock & Cena was really lame! They can do much better than that, especially with The Rock virtually full time up until WM.

  • Jimmy

    The Rock/Cena storyline is predictable and i’m more concerned about who will win the Rumble because that is still a surprise.

    • John

      It’s only a surprise if you have been watching with your eyes shut ! Cena is definitely winning the Rumble.. Would put my last $ on it.

      • Jimmy

        Well then whats the plan for the Raw elimination chamber? I doubt that Rock will be defending the title inside the chamber and with cena being the contender what stipulation will they have for the chamber match?

  • steve pritchard

    What about punk vs cena? I know this is highly unlikely! But seriously u people want to see once in a lifetime part 2?there is plenty of good matches they can book besides this! I don’t care if cena is in the main event.lust get someone besides the rock to face him we have already seen this! Why bring the rock back for a short schedule and rehash what we saw last year! This is stupid and only a cena fan boy would say different! I don’t care what they say

  • Floyd Kirk

    If the rumors are true then it will be greatest wrestling match ever. I’m a fan of both wrestlers.WWE – World Wrestling Entertainment

  • Matt S.

    The whole attitude era was a bigger draw than Cena…

  • Evon Reese

    Rock vs Cena was way more exciting than Rock vs Punk its like they have a gag order on the Rock this year. He can make fun of Vicky or Heyman but poor little cry baby Punk is not to be touched. It’s not even a feud . It’s rediculous.

  • proud

    I don’t care what others reckon but I believe Rock is there to make a star and who better to have him work with than Miz, they have history and it could really bring out the best.
    As for Cena just give him Undertaker

  • ROCK SARAN

    THE ROCK IS REAL HERO AT ANY TIME. AND ROCK IS LIFE LONG WORLD CHAMPION AND MY ROCK. I LOVE YOU SO MUCH THE ROCK AND ROCK STYLE BY SARANRAJ