Orton Carrying 2 Belts, HBK’s Surprise Appearance, Repeating PPV Matches, Ziggler In The Midcard

How long will Randy Orton carry both the WWE Championship and World Heavyweight Championship title belts?

We’ve received a lot of questions regarding Randy Orton carrying both title belts on this week’s episode of Monday Night Raw. Speculation was fueled by WWE changing the World title name plate, an indication that it’s not going anywhere. At this point I don’t know where WWE plans on going with this. Will Orton carry around both titles to sell that he won both or will they end up being split once again? Could there be a situation where he defends them in different matches? Anything is possible but you don’t need to expect a new title belt given what I outlined here.

What were your thoughts on Shawn Michaels’ brief segment with CM Punk?

I thought the verbal exchange between Shawn Michaels and CM Punk was well done and realistic. I saw Jim Ross and Steve Austin put it over on Twitter as well. Michaels wasn’t advertised so his appearance was a surprise that helped the show. There is more to HBK popping back up on television and I’ll have more later.

Why does WWE always have the same matches on Raw the night after a pay-per-view? For example, Dolph Ziggler vs. Fandango or CM Punk vs. The Shield.

There are a couple reasons. One, the story is already laid out and WWE can use the hype from the pay-per-view to attract viewers the following night. The second is the matches can serve to blowoff the programs that were built for the particular pay-per-view. There are impromptu matches setup on television but the company just can’t throw together a completely different card each and every week, it would make no sense and would lack a flow.

Why is Dolph Ziggler still in the mid card?

This is the question everyone, including me, wants to know the answer too. WWE has incorporated Ziggler’s recent losing streak in storyline with interviews that were shown on the WWE App during this week’s Monday Night Raw broadcast. Ziggler got one back against Fandango but consider this; prior to the victory on Raw, Ziggler was 0-5 in his last 5 televised/pay-per-view matches. Some will point to backstage heat and say he’s being humbled but that’s speculation.

From the Ask WNW vault…

April 2013: Growing up as a fan I remember managers having a bigger role in stroylines and getting mid carders of. The stable of wrestlers that Bobby Heenan, Jimmy Hart got over were awesome. Why are stables no longer built around managers? - I hear a lot from readers that complain about the lack of managers in today’s product but I disagree. Paul Heyman flanks CM Punk and Brock Lesnar, Alberto Del Rio has Ricardo Rodriguez, Dolph Ziggler has AJ Lee, Jack Swagger has Zeb Colter, Vickie Guerrero has a large role, etc. Managers are still a part of the wrestling business and will continue to have a role in helping talent get over on the stick. Heenan and Hart were two of the best but this is not a part of the business that’s extinct.

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  • Peter Brian Hoover Jr

    I hope they continue to use both belts. I think it adds to the importance of the unification.

  • jdl

    Ziggler is in the mid card because he proved unreliable during his run with the world title, unable to get over as a face afterward, and he can’t keep his trap shut. At this point he’s his own worst enemy and if he never gets a run at the top it’ll be due to his own immaturity.

    Having Orton work with both belts makes things interesting, but it makes me feel like they may eventually renege on unifying the belts.

    • Mysterion

      I don’t think Ziggler getting over was ever an issue. Fans still chant “we want Ziggler”. That said, they also still chant “we want Ryder” so god knows.

      • Jbreed

        Well there’s the problem. Since when do us fans ever get what we want? We want Daniel Bryan to be the number 1 guy in the WWE instead at TLC he’s laying in the middle of the ring with The Wyatt Family hovering over him in victory while Randy frikkin’ Orton goes on to win the unified tilte.

      • Jbreed

        Well there’s the problem. Since when do us fans ever get what we want? We want Daniel Bryan to be the number 1 guy in the WWE instead at TLC he’s laying in the middle of the ring with The Wyatt Family hovering over him in victory while Randy frikkin’ Orton goes on to win the unified tilte.

    • Nostaljack

      Ziggly-puffs wasn’t unreliable; he suffered a concussion! How is that his fault. I’m with you totally on his inability to watch what he says, though. He has a big mouth (a la Punk) but, unlike Punk, he’s not in a position to get away with what Punk can get away with. It has stifled his career and, even though he’s over, that’s likely to continue.

      • Xavier

        Ziggler is a crybaby loud mouth. Ziggler is pretty irrelevant at this point. And with both titles being merged don’t hold your breathe that Ziggler sniffs the main event anytime soon.

        • Mysterion

          I never said he’ll get main event. At all. I simply pointed out he’s over. As are the Usos but they won’t be main eventing wrestlemania will they? So to say Ziggler failed to get over is asinine.

          • Xavier

            I never said Ziggler wasn’t over, I agree that earlier this year he was over but his stock has fallen dramatically since this Spring. A lot of guys (Bryan, Big E, Bray Wyatt, Cody Rhodes, Ambrose, Reigns) that were behind Ziggler in the pecking order have surpassed and lapped Ziggler since the time Ziggler won the title.

        • Mysterion

          I never said he’ll get main event. At all. I simply pointed out he’s over. As are the Usos but they won’t be main eventing wrestlemania will they? So to say Ziggler failed to get over is asinine.

  • Patrick

    well WWE lied since HHH himself stated last week was the last time we saw both belts and Orton is on RAW this week with both of them.

    • Jbreed

      We know sooner or later they’ll be a long, time consuming segment dedicated to the introduction of the new WWE world heavyweight championship, and last night they probably didn’t feel it was the right time to do it yet.

    • Jbreed

      We know sooner or later they’ll be a long, time consuming segment dedicated to the introduction of the new WWE world heavyweight championship, and last night they probably didn’t feel it was the right time to do it yet.

      • Stephen Cash

        There will not be a new title!!!!! It will be the new wwe championship!!!!

      • JR Texx (Jamie)

        they will probably just lose the world heavyweight champsionship all together, and just use the WWE title.

      • JR Texx (Jamie)

        they will probably just lose the world heavyweight champsionship all together, and just use the WWE title.

  • Tyler

    who saw that finish coming during the orton/bryan match?!

    • Ricky

      I was expecting the Wyatt Family to come out and distract DB and Orton get the cheap win. At least with the DQ, Bryan “won” the match and Orton displayed questionable values.

    • Ken

      I saw it, you saw it and I’m pretty sure Stevie Wonder saw it plain as day. See what I did there? Oh, I did it again.

    • Jay El Bee

      I didn’t, I expected Orton to beat Bryan for I think the third time in a row to finally put an end to this feud that has been going on since June I believe

  • Andrew ace

    Orton should hold the titles till wrestlemania and defend both in a triple threat against punk and Bryan. Just like angle did the i.c. and European titles against Benoit and Jericho back at wrestlemania 2000 where we saw him lose both titles. Have punk win the heavyweight and bryan the wwe

  • Xavier

    I’d love to see a scenario where Orton drops the title inside the EC to Lesnar with Bryan winning the Rumble setting up a Lesnar/Bryan match at Mania for the title with Bryan going over. I know I know I’m stuck on this whole Bryan/Lesnar kick but I just think the two of them would have an amazing match with the build up being fantastic. I mean talk about a modern day David versus Goliath.

    Michaels/Punk was great last night, loved the back & forth between the two. With all that being said I really hope Michaels honors his retirement. I’d really like to see a active member of the roster get a spot at Mania over a retired legend. This current roster is the most loaded roster top to bottom in WWE history IMHO, there is just so much talent & diversity on this roster that I feel the WWE doesn’t need to bring in a star from the past.

    • 1molly23

      Your second paragraph is spot-on, but this Lesnar thing is just wrong. There’s no way Lesnar deserves a title shot. I know the man that called me a troll will have something to say, but aside from big Lesnar is really nothing. He walked away from pro-football, away from WWE, away from MMA (diverticulitis), and now works part time – he can’t remember and or memorize scripted lines, nor can he deliver on the mic- thank heaven for Paul Heyman, and all these attributes make him worthy of a title shot? Don’t think so. There are so many more full-time wrestlers far more deserving.

    • 1molly23

      Your second paragraph is spot-on, but this Lesnar thing is just wrong. There’s no way Lesnar deserves a title shot. I know the man that called me a troll will have something to say, but aside from big Lesnar is really nothing. He walked away from pro-football, away from WWE, away from MMA (diverticulitis), and now works part time – he can’t remember and or memorize scripted lines, nor can he deliver on the mic- thank heaven for Paul Heyman, and all these attributes make him worthy of a title shot? Don’t think so. There are so many more full-time wrestlers far more deserving.

      • Xavier

        When has Lesnar ever forgot his lines? That’s the 1st I’ve heard that.

        “but aside from big Lesnar is really nothing”

        Are you serious. Did you even watch the WWE from 2002-2004? Lesnar from the word go was better then pretty much 90% of the roster and that was within his rookie year that he figured it out so fast, had Lesnar stuck around he would of been the greatest from just a in ring standpoint, the guy was that good. The WWE may never see a man with that kind of strength/power and that kind of freakish athleticism and speed ever again. And about the mic skills, well when your that good in the ring and have that kind of presence you more then make up for your shortcomings on the mic. BTW, Hart was never that good on the mic either. And besides, Lesnar winning the title wouldn’t be a long term title reign, there are only 5 or 6 weeks between EC & Mania and a clean win over a monster like Lesnar would be huge for Bryan. And on top of that Lesnar is a HUGE draw at this stage in his career.

      • Xavier

        When has Lesnar ever forgot his lines? That’s the 1st I’ve heard that.

        “but aside from big Lesnar is really nothing”

        Are you serious. Did you even watch the WWE from 2002-2004? Lesnar from the word go was better then pretty much 90% of the roster and that was within his rookie year that he figured it out so fast, had Lesnar stuck around he would of been the greatest from just a in ring standpoint, the guy was that good. The WWE may never see a man with that kind of strength/power and that kind of freakish athleticism and speed ever again. And about the mic skills, well when your that good in the ring and have that kind of presence you more then make up for your shortcomings on the mic. BTW, Hart was never that good on the mic either. And besides, Lesnar winning the title wouldn’t be a long term title reign, there are only 5 or 6 weeks between EC & Mania and a clean win over a monster like Lesnar would be huge for Bryan. And on top of that Lesnar is a HUGE draw at this stage in his career.

      • TheBigKing1

        Too bad…he’s already pinned in to get a title run within these 2 years. So sometime in 2014 or 2015, he will. It’s in the latest 2 year contract he signed.

    • TheBigKing1

      I agree with the latter paragraph on Michaels and his retirement. No need to break your retirement…and right now. The roster is loaded right now with a lot of talent.

      But as far as your first paragraph, I would like Orton drop the title at EC as well…but to Punk…and agree with Bryan winning the Rumble as well….but i’m hoping they draw out this fued and it sets up a triple threat with all 3 of them. With Bryan of course finally winning.

      Bryan and Lesnar can have their match at or near Summer Slam.

      How does that sound?

      • Xavier

        Not a fan of Triple Threats at Mania. Bryan’s big moment should come in a 1 on 1 match. Give me Cena/Taker & Bryan/Lesnar headlining Mania over a Triple Threat involving Bryan/Orton/Punk

        • TheBigKing1

          Nah, Taker vs Lesnar.

        • TheBigKing1

          Nah, Taker vs Lesnar.

        • Mysterion

          Cena/Taker would be amazing. It’s sell so much, too. Can’t see why WWE aren’t tempted by this. Cena could be pseudo heel, too, without going full heel. The angles going in are endless.

          • Xavier

            I’d rather Cena stay the way he is when feuding with Taker. I say that b/c going into the match as face would leave more doubt rather Taker still walks away with the streak intact. The build for Taker’s Mania matches have historically always been better when he’s going up against a face (Batista, Michaels, Triple H)

          • Mysterion

            Oh yea, I mean keep him primarily face but have him embrace that badass, beat down attitude in the match when he’s getting frustrated.

      • Xavier

        Not a fan of Triple Threats at Mania. Bryan’s big moment should come in a 1 on 1 match. Give me Cena/Taker & Bryan/Lesnar headlining Mania over a Triple Threat involving Bryan/Orton/Punk

    • Jbreed

      Unfortunately it’s another one of those cases where in-ing talent doesn’t matter much. Most fans are obsessed with the dream match concept these days rather than wanting to see two current young talents with the ability to put on a 5-star match in the main event. For example, fans would rather pay to see an old, broken down Hulk Hogan beause of his high profile in the WM 30 main event rather than great in-ring performers like CM Punk and Daniel Bryan. What a joke.

    • Jbreed

      Unfortunately it’s another one of those cases where in-ing talent doesn’t matter much. Most fans are obsessed with the dream match concept these days rather than wanting to see two current young talents with the ability to put on a 5-star match in the main event. For example, fans would rather pay to see an old, broken down Hulk Hogan beause of his high profile in the WM 30 main event rather than great in-ring performers like CM Punk and Daniel Bryan. What a joke.

  • Xavier

    I’d love to see a scenario where Orton drops the title inside the EC to Lesnar with Bryan winning the Rumble setting up a Lesnar/Bryan match at Mania for the title with Bryan going over. I know I know I’m stuck on this whole Bryan/Lesnar kick but I just think the two of them would have an amazing match with the build up being fantastic. I mean talk about a modern day David versus Goliath.

    Michaels/Punk was great last night, loved the back & forth between the two. With all that being said I really hope Michaels honors his retirement. I’d really like to see a active member of the roster get a spot at Mania over a retired legend. This current roster is the most loaded roster top to bottom in WWE history IMHO, there is just so much talent & diversity on this roster that I feel the WWE doesn’t need to bring in a star from the past.

  • DW

    You ever notice….no matter what situation. Randy Orton never wears pants. Sitting in an office with Vince and his suit on and Randy can’t even wear a shirt. Put on pants Randy.

  • Smexy “JAY” Shuffle

    This whole Title Unification match was just thrown in last minute if you think about it. They couldn’t plan any decent storyline so instead they give us this b***s**t excuse that they planned on having that title unification match so they give it us when in fact it was unplanned because even WWE doesnt know what to do right now…..otherwise they would have done it.

    A bit silly if HHH is saying this is the last time we saw both titles only for Orton to still be carrying both. Again this was a last minute thrown together match and was a poor attempt. The TLC PPV was one of the weakest cards this year (only match that was worth watching was the Fatal 4 Way Tag Team match!!!)

    Your Welcome!

    • Mysterion

      Welcome for what? Having my IQ decimated?

  • Smexy “JAY” Shuffle

    This whole Title Unification match was just thrown in last minute if you think about it. They couldn’t plan any decent storyline so instead they give us this b***s**t excuse that they planned on having that title unification match so they give it us when in fact it was unplanned because even WWE doesnt know what to do right now…..otherwise they would have done it.

    A bit silly if HHH is saying this is the last time we saw both titles only for Orton to still be carrying both. Again this was a last minute thrown together match and was a poor attempt. The TLC PPV was one of the weakest cards this year (only match that was worth watching was the Fatal 4 Way Tag Team match!!!)

    Your Welcome!

  • 1molly23

    @disqus_MfLD4N5kPt:disqus – Lesnar forgot his lines on RAW earlier this year – I’d like to say it was during a contract signing – but it was just pathetic enough to notice – not enough to remember the episode or date. Sorry.