WM30 Match No One Wants To See, Scolding Green Bay, What Happened With Cena On Raw, Sting’s Status

Based on the way things went on this week’s episode of Monday Night Raw it looks like WWE is doing Batista vs. Randy Orton and Triple H vs. Daniel Bryan at Wrestlemania XXX. What are your thoughts?

WWE will be making a monumental mistake if they believe Batista vs. Randy Orton for the WWE World Heavyweight Championship will appease their fans at Wrestlemania 30 in April. Vince McMahon and Triple H appeared to be “sticking with the plan” on this week’s episode of Monday Night Raw with the first steps being taken in the aforementioned programs. The feeling coming out of Elimination Chamber (as if it wasn’t already beyond obvious) was that a tweak to the Batista character was inevitable. I detailed the situation further at this link. As for Triple H vs. Daniel Bryan, I don’t see that as a bad thing for Daniel Bryan but I think if he is not in the title match at Wrestlemania, the company is going to have a riot on their hands. It will be interesting to see if Vince and Hunter stray from the original plan — and go with option three detailed here — or if they stick to their guns. Following this week’s episode of Raw, as much as I hate to say it, it looks like they’re sticking to the plan.

I’m interested in your reaction to the Green Bay crowd chanting “Randy Savage,” “Husky Harris,” etc. during Bray Wyatt vs. Roman Reigns on this week’s episode of Monday Night Raw?

I’m going to agree with my good friend Brooks Oglesby on Twitter with this one. Anyone chanting “Husky Harris” or doing anything disrespectful during Bray Wyatt vs. Roman Reigns at this week’s episode of Monday Night Raw, deserves Batista vs. Orton at Wrestlemania. It’s stuff like this that makes me such a huge critic of the “CM Punk” chants. I understand that Wyatt vs. Reigns was at a slower-pace on Raw but just because the show is long and the audience is worn out, doesn’t give them the right to act like spoiled children. It’s reactions like this that cause WWE not to take crowd chants seriously and stick to horrible plans such as the two former Evolution members facing off for the title at the biggest show of the year in a match no one cares about. I’m not saying fans shouldn’t be able to chant what they want, it’s a free country and if you buy a ticket you should do as you please (within reason of course). But if your only goal in attending a WWE event is to disrupt the show and sabotage two workers that are coming off a Match of the Year candidate at Elimination Chamber, then you should probably find a new hobby. Some people refuse to admit when they’ve moved on from the business. If you’re overly critical and everything you do is an attempt to come off as “the smartest wrestling fan alive,” you’ve probably just lost interest in pro wrestling. There is nothing wrong with that but it’s fans like this that make it miserable for everyone else.

Was John Cena legitimately injured on Raw or is it a work?

The John Cena knee injury went from an injury to an “injury.” This doesn’t mean that he was hurt and suddenly “got better” when WWE went kayfabe with it. As I reported here on WrestlingNewsWorld.com, Cena legitimately tweaked his knee and it was obvious to everyone watching on television and everyone in the building. However, the word from backstage was that a serious injury did not occur and WWE was accentuating what happened to entice people to tune in to Backstage Pass. John isn’t scheduled for this week’s Smackdown but is scheduled to appear at Thursday’s NXT Arrival pay-per-view on the WWE Network.

What’s the latest update on Sting’s status now that Brock Lesnar vs. Undertaker has been announced?

Sting is believed to be close to signing a contract with WWE but has never been in the plans for Wrestlemania 30. That’s not to say that he doesn’t get added to the show when/if a deal gets signed, it just means anything you’ve heard about Sting and Wrestlemania has been opinion and not fact. Undertaker requested a Wrestlemania match with Brock Lesnar before he faced CM Punk at Wrestlemania 29 last year, that’s how far this goes back. Over the course of the last year, this match only hit one significant speed bump when Undertaker was believed to be concerned about Lesnar’s physical style at this stage in his career. However, we confirmed on Valentine’s Day that Undertaker had officially signed off on a match with Lesnar and they were just trying to figure out how long Brock would spend in Texas to go over the bout.

From the Ask WNW vault…

February 2014: What are the updated plans for Wrestlemania XXX? - Plans for Wrestlemania XXX have been more “up in the air” this year than some of my sources can ever remember. Vince McMahon likes to have Wrestlemania planned up to a year in advance but this year it just hasn’t happened. From not getting part-time talent locked down to other issues, the plans have constantly changed. However, the plans for the show as of this writing are to do Randy Orton vs. Batista, Brock Lesnar vs. The Undertaker, John Cena vs. Bray Wyatt and Daniel Bryan vs. Triple H. I was told they were looking at doing Goldust vs. Cody Rhodes and Rey Mysterio pitched a match against Alberto Del Rio. Obviously these plans are subject to change with the only “sure thing” being Batista challenging for the WWE World Heavyweight Championship in response to winning the Royal Rumble.

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  • Bob’s Diner

    Roman Reigns vs Bray Wyatt proved my point – Reigns is not ready for a singles push. He is too inexperienced. When he wasn’t hitting his big moves, he looked completely lost out there

    • Venom

      Looks like my opinion on Rollins is becoming true. I loved the way he came to Reigns aide last night.

      • Bob’s Diner

        He is slowly winning people over, I think. I am looking forward to seeing what he can do on his own

        • David F.

          Rollins has that Jeff Hardy, RVD, and Y2J type of style. I cant wait to see him in singles action after Shield break up. Im just not high on Rowan and Harper. They are just not that entertaining to me and I just see mid card future for them

      • Lebron James

        Rollins was also amazing during their match on Sunday. He at one point was taking the Wyatts out single handedly. It was amazing! It shows that these guys have each others back no matter what. Even Ambrose, who was mad at the guys, came to their aid. The Shield will go down as one of the greatest factions of all time. They’ve had a hell of a run, and I’m going to miss them when they break up. That group was a “once in a generation group”.

    • Xavier

      That’s pretty much the case. I still think Reigns will be fine long term or as long as he’s in the ring with more experienced workers who can guide him. His match with Bryan a few months back was really good. So while very green as you pointed out he’s still more then carriable

      • Ben

        Reigns seems to be a talented athlete and I remember Richard posting a report that he was like a sponge, absorbing as much as he could from Ambrose and Rollins. That’s a good sign that he’s humble and eager to listen and learn. He’s got all the pieces to be a huge star and that kind of drive will get him there.

        • Xavier

          Agreed

        • Padres4life

          so if Reigns is supposed to be the next big thing..what does this mean for Bryan’s future?

          • Ben

            Bryan vs Reigns in a WM main event.

      • Bob’s Diner

        For sure – long term, he will be ok. He’s got the look and potential. People need to let him actually grow as a performer and stop with this nonsense about him being world champion now – he has plenty of time for that

        • Xavier

          You hit the nail on the head

          • Snap

            I agree. The only way for Roman Reigns to meet the lofty expectations already being put upon him is to give him the opportunities to gain experience as a singles competitor. It seems like the whole “instant gratification” which the suits in WWE expect of new characters and gimmicks is rubbing off onto the fanbase, wanting whomever they latch on to to be t he champion and to be the champion NOW.

            What people seem to forget is it took Shawn Michaels years after he broke from The Rockers to become the WWF champion and the only reason Ric Flair won the championship so early after his arrival was because he’s Ric Flair.

            Now, as for all of the chants, I’ll be the first to say people should chant what they like and whatnot, but the whole trend about chanting about anything that has nothing to do with the match has been played out and it’s no longer funny or entertaining. A great crowd can help a mediocre show but a bad crowd can really pull down an otherwise good or great show. Not every match needs to be a spotfest.

    • Scott Davies

      I think coming off a big match that people are saying ‘MOTY’. Then coming into this with a slow pace. Kills the momentum. Who ever the agent was incharge of this match backstage. Should have told them to make it a hard stiff dirty brawl. It was like a few years ago Kane & Big Show had a match & they chain wrestled. That don’t always work.

    • Jeff Ono

      Richard – How is “Husky Harris” disrespectful while “Cena Sucks” is acceptable? The double standards are egregious.

    • Snap

      I actually think this is an apples vs. oranges type of situation.

      Hear me out, the “Husky Harris” chants are obviously intended to mock a failed character and would be comparable to people chanting “Isaac Yankem” at Kane, “Johnny Polo” at Raven or “Goldberg” at Ryback, but that one isn’t really in the same category as the others. If the “Cena Sucks” chants are disrespectful, then what about any similar chant directed at heels? “You suck!” for instance whenever Kurt Angle would come to the ring. It would be a double standard to say the “Cena Sucks” chants are disrespectful (hey, Cena himself would call Punk “CM Sucks”) because he’s not a heel, but to chant that a heel character sucks is perfectly acceptable.

  • jdl

    The slow paced match between Reigns and Wyatt made it pretty evident that Reigns is far too green for the Shield to break up yet. He clearly doesn’t quite understand ring psychology yet, and he lacks pretty much all technical abilities. He’s a big, fairly pretty man who knows how to hit big spots and nothing else, which is a pretty large problem and does not bode well for his future. Most Shield matches consist of Rollins and Ambrose doing the heavy lifting while Reigns just stomps into the ring, hits a few big spots and then takes the pin. Sure, that’s impressive and people have latched onto him, but he’s going to have trouble keeping that momentum when he’s off on his own if Monday was what he’s capable of in the ring without his compatriots. Wyatt did not look lost for a second of that match, he was on point the entire time. Every move, every reaction to Reigns, every step, and every moment he looked around was all in character, and the difference between the two performers in that match was so clear. Reigns is not ready.

    • Jc

      Totally disagree about reigns. Peoples live affair with rollins and ambrose being “real” talent, has them not admitting that Reigns will

      • Jc

        That reigns will be the biggest start out of that group. Sorry for the split post.

      • Bob’s Diner

        No one said Reigns doesn’t have potential. but right now he doesn’t have the skills to carry himself on his own. This isn’t 1994 when a big guy could get away with having 2 cool moves and looking tough

        • Xavier

          Are you taking a subliminal shot at Big Daddy Cool Diesel lol?

          • Bob’s Diner

            Would I do that? ;)

      • Mysterion

        At the end of the day Rollins and Ambrose ARE the real talent of this group. Reigns is potential. Ask Jack Swagger what can happen to potential when you make a single mistake. Reigns has his head on his shoulders but Ambrose and Rollins are veterans in the business and neither of them are even north of 30 yet. There is a world outside of the WWE dude. Indie wrestling isn’t as sexy and flash by any means but it’s when the majority of cats pay their dues and Ambrose and Rollins have done just that for years.

    • Padres4life

      thats why they are having Rollins stay with him and Ambrose is breaking free…Originally Reigns was supposed to break off, but now Rollins is the one staying with Reigns…Reigns needs help

  • Venom

    Was it just me or did the Batista/Del Rio match have some buzzing/static/echoing sound throughout the whole matche? It sounded like they wanted the crowd noise to die out and the announcers mic were a touch louder.

    Also last night they did the same finish twice. Jack swagger cost Cesaro the match when he attacked Big E. and Ambrose cost Reigns the match attacking Wyatt.

    • TheBigKing1

      It’s just you bro. Lol

    • Mysterion

      It’s not just you. That static noise, to me, often indicates the fans couldn’t care less.

  • Xavier

    I hate to have too agree with the Bob’s Diner & jbl and this one hurts to say but Nick K are right, Reigns is still pretty green out there. While Bray is a good worker he doesn’t have enough experience to carry Reigns the way a guy like Bryan did a few months back. I still believe Reigns has all the tools to one day be “that guy”. If the WWE is going to insist on pushing Reigns as a singles star then he’s gonna need to be in matches with veterans that can carry & protect him for a while until he picks it up on his own. It’s normal for a guy with his experience to be green so I’m not worried about him in the long term

    People need to accept the fact that Batista/Orton is the match we are getting at Mania., rather they like the match up or not. I don’t care for it either but it’s done and over with and there’s nothing that any of us can do to change it. So I hope people aren’t getting there hopes up that Bryan will be inserted into that match, if he did that would be great but I’m not putting all my eggs in that basket.

    I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again, as a long time wrestling fan I’d love to see Sting in the WWE in some captivity but I still have no interest in ever seeing Taker/Sting at Mania. Sting is damn near 55 and isn’t half the worker he use to be. I don’t know exactly what people are expecting out of a match with a 50 year old Taker and a 55 year old man who’s well past his prime. There are so many better options out there for Taker at Mania (Lesnar, Cena & Bryan) are all matches that would be light years better then Taker/Sting. Hate to break it to some folks but that ship has long sailed.

    On a sidenote, I’m glad Cena is okay. I’m looking forward too seeing what kind of feud Cena & Bray can produce leading up too Mania.

    • Bob’s Diner

      Why do you hate to agree with me? ;)

      • Xavier

        Lol It had nothing to do with hating to agree with you. I just hated having to come too terms that Reigns is still green. I’ve been a huge supporter of Reigns so it sucks that I have to acknowledge and agree with you &jbl that he struggled last night

        • Bob’s Diner

          All good, I like to think you and I are cool nowadays.
          BTW how great was the ending last night? I thought all 3 men delivered in such a great way. I have to give props to Lesnar for his reactions all through the segment. His facials were hilarious and he sold the ‘pen-stabbing’ big time

          • Xavier

            1000% agree. I loved the way it ended. Taker stabbing Lesnar was great and Lesnar sold it very well. I wonder where all those people are who were claiming that no one wanted too see Taker/Lesnar. The reaction was thru the roof for the staredown

  • t s

    right now, the best outcome I see is a stipulation being added to the Triple H fight that puts Bryan in the main event. It raises the stakes, and can you imagine Bryan beating Triple H and then winning the championship later that night? woof

  • Ronnie

    I honestly didn’t think Reigns looked that green out there; rather I think they’re just trying to get him accustomed to the whole face-heel dynamic of the heel dominating and the face making a huge comeback to try and win. It’s similar to the 6 man tag match ending which you saw at Elimination Chamber. A work in progress which seems to be working, he’ll definitely be the next big star of the Shield. That crowd though, seriously like Richard said, they deserve Batista vs Orton at Mania. Ruins the fun of the match for everyone else.

  • Ben

    Am I the only one who is scared of Bryan vs. Triple H? I just get this really bad feeling Trips will go over like he so pointlessly did against Punk in 2011. It’s not like Bryan is going to argue with how the match is booked, it’s not his style. I’ve been a fan of much of Triple H’s work backstage but his ego is still there and I can’t help but think it gets in the way of him putting people over when he clearly should. I really, really hope I’m wrong.

    • Xavier

      I’m actually not. Triple H despite what the internet says about him has lost at Mania as much as he’s won. He put Chris Benoit ,Batista & John Cena over clean at consecutive Manias and all three paid off in a huge way especially Batista & Cena, but of course the Triple H bashers conveniently fail to mention that. And I agree Triple H should of put Punk over in 2011 but that result did nothing to hurt Punk’s standing at all, I mean soon after he won the title at Survivor Series and had the longest title reign in 25 years.

      • Ben

        A lot of my concern is based not only on the Punk match but also the Lesnar match at Mania, combined with the fact Bryan isn’t assertive backstage and the overall terrible booking he’s had with seemingly no regard for what the fans want. Heck that second part is the really major issue. It’s gotten to the point I legitimately don’t believe Bryan is going to ever win the big one.

        • Xavier

          But rather Punk went over or not against Triple H it didn’t do anything to hurt Punk at all, had but I do agree that Punk should of went over though. This situation with Bryan is different then that of Lesnar as well b/c Triple H tapped out to Lesnar clean at Summerslam a half a year prior and Triple H ended up losing to Lesnar clean again the very next month at Extreme Rules, but I do believe that Triple H will do the right thing here. When the chance has presented itself for Triple H to put someone over at Mania he’s been pretty good about doing the right thing in that regard

          • Ben

            Yeah the loss didn’t hurt Punk, though I can only imagine that did further damage to what seemingly wasn’t a particularly good relationship in the first place. He does have a good track record at Mania and I hope that remains true here.

          • Padres4life

            the difference is, Bryan is a model employee and a genuine guy…Punk badmouths the company and has an attitude problem….who would you rather put over?

    • Mysterion

      100% agree here man. Bryan NEEDS to go over. Not only for Bryan but for the sake of all the workers who have to follow that match. I mean if it goes on just before Orton/Batista… Dear God. It’ll be like the year Orton/HHH followed Michaels/Taker!

      • Xavier

        Batista/Orton won’t close. That was made clear last night when Taker & Lesnar’s segment ended RAW last night

        • Ronnie

          Let’s be honest; they closed the show because it was Undertaker and Lesnar’s grand returns. The way WWE is pushing it, Batista/Orton will close.

          • Xavier

            Trust me bro, it won’t. Unless they insert Bryan into this which isn’t likely

        • Mysterion

          I prey to God you’re right. Then again, the fact they’ve blindly carried on with this angle against everything the fans, not the idiots chanting “Randy Savage”, I mean actual paid, sit, watch, enjoy fans, have spat at them, I’m not confident.

          • Xavier

            I think we’re all praying to God on this one lol

      • Ben

        Orton/Batista can be the cool-down match between Trips/D-Bry and Taker/Lesnar. If they put any match other than Taker/Lesnar on last, that’s just stupid.

      • Patrick

        100% agreed Bryan should and needs to go over.

    • Bob’s Diner

      WWE are paying attention – there is no way they would go through with the match if HHH was not going to put Bryan over. They are already struggling to get people interested in Orton/Batista and having Bryan go under would just make things worse

      • Ben

        Forget struggling, it’s not going to happen. That match is a disaster. The only thing I can think of that could save it at this point is if Punk is actually returning in Chicago next week on Raw and is inserted in that match. That’s not very likely.

        • David F.

          I just dont like Triple H having major WM match period. His Wrestlemania resume is very subpar unlike HBK he does not have great one one Mania match not involving the Undertaker.

          • Bob’s Diner

            Completely agree. But he’s the boss (or at least the 2nd in charge) so he kinda gets to do what he wants

    • TheBigKing1

      He ego isn’t that big to do what’s best for business. The script leaked that leaked the outcome of the potential Punk/HHH match at WM30. Punk would win, then HHH would be furious over that win, that he puts stipulations on future Punk matches.
      Point is, look for Bryan to beat HHH at WM30. Put your personal feelings aside.

      • Ben

        Personal feelings? You mean the ones about how I think he’s a very good performer (and a great heel) and that he’s going to do an excellent job running the WWE when Vince finally hands him the reigns? Forgive me for having concerns about Bryan’s booking. It’s not like there’s much to be hopeful about in that regard.

      • Bob’s Diner

        Wait, “the script leaked”?
        That sounds like the biggest load of BS I could ever imagine…
        You’re trying to tell me that a guy who insisted on going on last over Hulk Hogan/The Rock knows when to keep his ego in check? For all we know, he could have been intending to go over CM Punk, given Punk’s contract was up in a few months and no one expected him to re-sign with WWE. I can’t imagine HHH putting over someone leaving the company. That goes against everything he stands for

        • TheBigKing1

          I didn’t want to say…incase he actually does come back…and they still do this. But most likely not. He can take a long break and sign again and then come back.
          But the script that leaked a couple of weeks ago said that he was going to beat HHH at WM30, then HHH would be so furious on the breakup that he puts a stipulation on him, that if he loses any match after that, he has to leave the company. It was 1 of 3 men to beat him at Payback or something. Ziggler, I think Reigns…and somebody else, not sure if it was Cesaro or somebody else that I can’t think of. Maybe Big E. I think it was Ziggler, Reigns, and Big E that he would have his last match with. ALLEGEDLY.

          • Bob’s Diner

            Hahahaha that is a VERY big allegedly. Ziggler isn’t beating anyone for anything important.

            Please don’t misunderstand me though, I don’t think HHH is going to be beating Daniel Bryan at WrestleMania. But the idea of a script for WrestleMania floating around is just absurd. Sounds very TNA to me

          • Padres4life

            if Bryan wins, where does he go from there? they clearly dont’ want him touching the title…..which makes no sense.

          • Bob’s Diner

            He’ll get the title. There is no doubt in my mind WWE are contractually obligated to give Batista the title at WrestleMania, otherwise Daniel Bryan would in the main event. They’ve just accidentally turned Batista into a walking heat magnet in the process – which will mean good business for a Daniel Bryan/Batista title match. When have you ever heard the commentary team say someone gets a bigger ovation than John Cena?

            As I’ve said before, this is the problem with WWE booking WrestleMania so far in advance. They rely so heavily on bringing people back that it hinders the evolution of their own roster. Though I’m sure HHH will probably blame it all on CM Punk walking out or something.

          • TheBigKing1

            Stop playing dumb. Not the actual script. You know what I mean. The storyline leaked.

      • Mysterion

        Do you ever actually follow wrestling? There isn’t a confirmed Mania script now. Mania likely won’t be finalized 100% until April 6th 2014. So no, the script didn’t leak.

  • DeCarlos

    I agree 100% with you Richard on the Reigns and Wyatt match, In fact that crowd annoyed me the whole night. Yes i understand if you payed the money you can do what you want but when these guys just put on a good show Sunday night and this being the second PPV in a row Bray Wyatt has put on an excellent match i think they deserved a little appreciation. There was other good matches that was disrespected by the fans like the Cesaro and Big E match, and them Chanting ShEugene to Emma smh

    • Xavier

      It’s disrespectful when fans do it regardless of who’s in the ring. Rather it’s Sheamus/Orton or Reigns/Wyatt.

      • TheBigKing1

        Agreed

  • K!NG

    Once again the fans prooved that they just want to “run” the show n don’t care what performance the wrestlers are putting on

  • M.C. Elroy

    I guarantee that the imbecile that was screaming “You Suck” during the beginning of D-Bry’s promo was the one who started the senseless chants during a decent Reigns vs. Wyatt match. The match did not warrant that reaction at all and the chants ruined it for me. I agree with your answer, Richard. To sabotage a good match featuring the future of the business is synonymous with a fan who no longer has passion and respect for the business.

  • 1degenerate

    The “fans” try and take over any match w/Orton its hilarious. They do it in a match with a “future star” or ex indy guy its stupid. Typical.

    • Xavier

      Lol exactly.

  • Bob’s Diner

    I’d just like to say I found it absolutely surreal when the commentators were actually acknowledging the poor reaction Batista is getting – especially the ‘Bootista’ chant. Then Randy Orton blew my mind by cutting a promo on Batista about how no one likes him. But what was even more surreal was Batista still trying to be a face and cutting a John Cena promo about how he loves the business and the crowd booing and chanting whoever they want… talk about crazy

    • Xavier

      Agreed. Batista can’t pull off a promo like that especially when everyone knows it’s not sincere. The boos are clearly in Batista’s head right now, I really hope on SD Batista is able to go in on the fans because that fits in way better with who he really is as a person.

      • TheBigKing1

        What you mean? He said it. he could care less. That’s the real Batista. But he does have passion for this business. Fans might not see that…but he does.

        • Jbreed

          Well obviously Batista wasn’t too passionate about the business when he left in 2010 for being unhappy with the direction of the company. And now all of a sudden he wants to comes back to the same PG product. Batista is nothing but a hypocrite and only cares about the dollars.

          • TheBigKing1

            He loss his passion at that time because of the whole PG thing. I respect him for leaving when he loss his passion. A few years back, he got his passion back..so what. What’s the problem??

          • Jbreed

            There’s nothing wrong for somebody to leave the company if they’re unhappy. Batista left criticizing the WWE for being too kid-frendly. “There’s nothing kid-friendly about Batista”, his own words. It had nothing to do with losing his passion. But once he left on those terms he should have stayed away.

          • Bob’s Diner

            Oh and now he is saying on twitter he didn’t want to leave but he had to. The guy is full of it

          • Mysterion

            His ring work is sloppy, his mic work is even worse, he doesn’t look like the animal anymore and he’s just haggard. I don’t see passion. I see $$$. You don’t ignore the business for four years then suddenly wake up to realize your passion is there again.

          • Xavier

            Remember you said that next time someone defends CM Punk for doing the same thing, just saying

          • Jbreed

            As long as CM Punk doesn’t come back than I really don’t have anything to say.

        • Bob’s Diner

          He has passion for himself and that’s about it

        • Xavier

          I was agreeing with Diner in regards to Batista not being able to pull off the same type of promo that Cena does when addressing the boos. It came off as forced and not very convincing at all.

          • TheBigKing1

            True. It did come off that way. But I believe him. The only reason I do is because of past interviews of his, that’s why. And I know he’s a real and honest person…like I am. So I respect that.

    • TheBigKing1

      Well, when he said he loves this business(which I know is the honest truth), I thought that too…but he was referring to Ortons comment towards him, so he was correcting him.

  • Xavier

    Richard, People can’t get mad about fans hijacking Reigns/Wyatt then turnaround and condone fans hijacking Orton/Cena (or any other match for that mater) especially seeing how Cena/Orton from the Rumble was better then Reigns/Wyatts from last nignt. Hijacking matches is annoying no matter what match it is being hijacked and disrespectful, I hope after last night people realize how dumb it is

    • TheBigKing1

      Exactly. I was explaining that point earlier to Richard. But he’s a mark for Bryan, so in his eyes, DONT HIJACK ANYTHING OR ANYBODY ELSE…..EXCEPT IF IT’S CONCERNING BRYAN OR WHATEVER. SMDH!

    • Bob’s Diner

      Regardless of the match, anyone who starts a ‘Michael Cole’ chant needs to get medical help

      • Xavier

        LOL

  • Cubed56

    I was in attendance for raw last night with my four year old son, and I gotta say the emotions he showed when hulk and taker came out were priceless. Now to my point, I completely agree about the fans. It was embarrassing last night with some of the chants the fans were doing. It was even worse during commercial breaks as CM Punk chants were always going on at that time. Im a CM Punk fan, but its getting old very fast. I also am a DB fan, but the blindness of the fans and their over the top admiration for him is not allowing them to see the vast amounts of future stars wwe has on the roster. Die hard fans can see the big picture, but unfortunately for wwe until they give the fans exactly what they want with DB they are going to get these chants and reactions at every live event.

    • Xavier

      Why did you start that rude chant during the Reigns/Wyatt match? Lol

    • Xavier

      I agree with what you said though about fans trying to hijack every match that doesn’t involve Bryan. As much as I love Reigns & Wyatts I’m actually kind of glad fans crapped on it to open the eyes of those fans that would typically support this type of behavior. Now that it’s happened to two of the smarks favorites maybe that’ll be a wake up call for them and maybe they’ll see just how ignorant it really makes them look. Hijacking matches is disrespectful no matter who it’s done too.

      • Cubed56

        I agree to an extent. I dont mind hijacking of matches weve seen 1000 times before. I honestly dont think those fans intend to disrespect the performers as we all know the punishment they put their bodies through. I think its more to voice their displeasure with the lack of new creative directions. O, and FYI the only chant i got involved in were the ones for Hogan, lol.

    • Ashley

      I was there too and was embarrassed by all the dumb chants. It just seemed everyone was waiting for Hogan, DB, and Taker and not interested in anyone else. I had a great time and thought it was good show.

    • Padres4life

      what exactly is the big picture? IMO, it seems like they have no intention of making Bryan big, they are only pushing him to shut us up. Thats the scary part, that they can’t see how talented he is.

      • Cubed56

        Ha, to me your answer just further proves my point above. If you cant see the obvious picture being painted by now, i dont think you ever will

    • Heath Slater

      Thank you! There’s actually a few sensible wrestling fans attending these events. Sadly we’re in the minority. Most of these clowns just care about making some self-serving statement, ruining the experience for others (especially young kids).

    • Avalanchian

      When you pay the money for the tickets you kind of have the right to do what you want within the law. Sure what some of them do is beyond rude, but they paid to be that.

  • Jbreed

    Batista/Randy Orton is gonna happen no matter what. The WWE cares more about what Batista and Orton want than what the fans want. And they know they can get away with it because the fans keep coming back anyway.

  • TheBigKing1

    Richard is such a mark. Oh so it’s ok to chant whatever at Batista or whoever because it’s to show people that you should put Byan in the title match…but any other chant, whether CM Punk, or the Husky Harris Chant or whatever is wrong. Really?? Really??? With all due respect Richard, but do you know how foolish you sound with that? You contradict yourself all the time. You say people can chant whatever they want…but just not certain things at certain people. That’s the same thing people are doing to Batista. What does giving heat to Batista have to do with Bryan. He followed his plan and what was told to him, and that’s to win the Royal Rumble. If you’re really mad at somebody about that, then give that heat to HHH instead. That makes sense….not what the hell these idiot fans are doing right now.
    And I AM looking forward to that match at WM30, Orton vs Batista. Bryan doesn’t need to be in a title match that he’s not going to win. he needs to face HHH or whoever, and beat him….it also needs to be a number 1 contender match. Anything less, it’s not acceptable. Putting him in the title match, just to get pinned or lose at WM30 is beyond stupid. There are ways that this main event can be good. I’m sure WWE is smart enough to do it. Hopefully Batista improves a little though. he hasn’t shown me much yet…and I’m a fan.

    • David C

      I don’t think its necessarily idiotic.

      The man came back to a prominent position within the company and took the spot away from everybody else that was on the Roster. It comes across that Vince or whoever was in charge of Batista’s booking cared far more about using a name than building upon the talent they have.

      The audience displayed their frustration towards Batista because he came back without even seeing the trends in the company and just steam rolled over the chance for WWE to finally get their next breakout star moment with DB at Mania. And why? Just because he’s a name that made it 9 years ago. I personally want to see them actually give storylines that build people to relevance rather than bringing back a frankly average wrestler and hot shotting them over what could have been the best thing since watching Michaels and Taker at WM25.

      • AlphaMale

        Spot on

  • proud

    I’d like to see Bryan squash HHH and then follow it up with Orton/Batista which the crowd boo and piss and moan and maybe throw a projectile or several hundred… Then Hogan comes out and says something along the lines of not having his show ruined… Um Bryan hasn’t done much tonight… And he gets inserted that way and walks away champion after his Wrestlemania moment!

    Many wont like this but it’s how I’d dig WWE out of the mine site they’ve gotten themselves in

    • Myasterion

      You have a rather large oxymoron in there. You admit it’s a s**t idea in saying “many won’t like this” then saying it’ll improve WWE? How does no one liking it make it a success?

  • Jordan

    Would it be a decent idea if sting signs to have him confront undertaker on the stage after he beats Brock Lesnar shake his hand and build a match over the next year with him and taker?? Kind of like what they did with the rock and Cena. Good idea or bad idea??

  • Ken

    If I was a betting man, which I’m not, I’d say that fans would immidiately start filing right out of the Superdome directly after after the Daniel Bryan match or after Taker/Lesnar match LONG before the attendence record is even announced. Anyone who’s left to watch Orton vs Batista will likely have a field day crapping all over it. If that doesn’t result in a BIG TIME wake up call for VinnieMac or HHH, I don’t know what will. I don’t even Hulk Hogan will be able to save the Show of Shows from becoming the Debacle of Debacles.
    C’mon, Vince. Get your head out of Big Show’s bum and LISTEN TO THE YES MOVEMENT!

    • John

      Can we all please understand that Batista vs. Randy Orton will NOT be the main event of WrestleMania. Lesnar vs. Undertaker is probably going to go on last, or maybe even Triple H / Daniel Bryan. But it’s definitely not going to to be the championship match. It will be buried somewhere in the middle of the card.

    • Avalanchian

      Lesnar and Taker will be the last match. Because there is no better way to end it than with the Undertaker possibly doing his last match.

  • Padres4life

    WWE is way stubborn..its ridiculous..After all the fan support for Bryan, they still want him nowhere near the title….its really disgusting, at first it was okay, but now, it makes absolutely no sense. Its beyond a storyline now, they just don’t seem to really like the guy. Its weird. They even scoffed at him challenging Triple H last night, its like Triple H can’t take him as a threat and its disgusting to watch that. There are no bad reports on Bryan backstage, he causes no problems. It just literally feels like they’re holding him down legitimately now. Its just baffling and very traumatizing in a sense because it shows hard work doesn’t pay off. What more does the guy have to do?

    • Ben

      Threaten to walk out on the company. Worked for CM Punk. I am not condoning Punk walking out, simply saying it seems like that’s the only way to get results. That’s messed up and sad.

      EDIT- Wanted to be more clear, Bryan obviously wouldn’t do this because it’s not in his constitution to really protest or make a stand. He’s way too easygoing. Unfortunately, that’s part of the problem, because even when he has been upset with the booking he just seemingly brushes it off and moves on. Great attitude for much of life, but not so great in the WWE when trying to move up the card.

  • Patrick

    Vince and HHH will be stubborn and stick to Batista vs Orton their stubborness is going to cost them as you said Richard fans will riot.

  • Jay El Bee

    You’re wrong about nobody caring about Batista-Orton, I’d rather see that match at WM than another match involving Bryan wrestling for the title. Face it Bryan already had his chance from SummerSlam on and he failed miserably, or at least his fanbase failed him.

    • Gary Robert

      fail

      • Jay El Bee

        I agree he did fail, or at least his fanbase failed him.

    • Mysterion

      Sorry but i need you to SERIOUSLY break this comment down into valid points. Bryan went over in that title match… Success. He went over Orton… Success. The YES chants are the loudest thing in any pro wrestling company since the Attitude era… Success. So at what point has he or his fanbase failed? You, sir, are a failure. You think Orton and Batista are over? Crowd reactions speak my friend. And they get less than Alberto Del Rio. Or is he more successful than Bryan, too?

      • Bob’s Diner

        Unfortunately, Jay El Bee thinks twitter is the best indicator of someone’s popularity. That and ratings. Except if the ratings are bad for someone other than Daniel Bryan – then there are excuses.

        • Ben

          Or he’s just an idiotic troll.

          • Bob’s Diner

            There is that, too. He’ll probably start another disqus profile and start trolling my comments again like he did last time

      • Jay El Bee

        How has his fanbase failed, how about Battleground being the worst drawing WWE PPV without the ECW initials of all time. Or how about the second worst drawing SummerSlam since at least the mid-90′s, maybe of all time. Or how about Raw losing a fifth of their audience or nearly 1 million viewers from August to October. Numbers speak my friend and nobody outside of the crowd apparently buys him as the top face or title contender, of course based on the numbers a lot of people could just like chanting Yes and aren’t fans of his at all.

        • Bob’s Diner

          Hey you really want to play the PPV buyrates blame game?
          Here is something very interesting I found out the other day:

          From SummerSlam to TLC – a six PPV stretch – WWE lost 139,000 buys from the same events in 2012. The only worse 6 PPV stretch in history was in 2009. From Judgement Day through to Breaking Point, WWE lost a whopping 180,000 buys compared to 2008.

          Want to know who was WWE champion in 2009 when the company lost 180,000 buys?
          Randy Orton
          Who has been WWE champion while the company lost 139,000 PPV buys?
          Randy Orton

          Notice a trend there?
          Your theory = laughable

          • Jay El Bee

            That’s great and all except Orton only main evented 1 of those PPVs. You want to know who did main event most of those PPVs, Jeff Hardy – 4 & CM Punk – 3 or 4 if you count his MITB cash in. That was a nice try though.

          • Bob’s Diner

            I’m well aware of who main-evented those PPVs. The thing is, no one knew going into them that those would be the matches to close the shows. The brand split was still in effect – Randy Orton was the WWE Champion on Raw (the flagship show) and the other guys were the champs on Smackdown – the B show. So the only reason those matches were going on last was because WWE knew Orton and Cena and Batista couldn’t follow them. If people weren’t buying those PPVs, you can’t blame the champ on the B show. Raw is the flagship show. The title race is supposed to be the draw card.

            Or at least that is your theory, since you blame Daniel Bryan for everything.

            So nice try? Great try.
            You have no comeback that doesn’t prove how hypocritical you are

          • Jay El Bee

            Blaming it on the “B” show you’re a moron, the World title was on the “A” show as recently as April of that same year. Just face it your guys can’t draw and everytime you try to blame someone else it doesn’t work out for you.

          • Bob’s Diner

            I knew you would resort to name calling because you have no comeback
            my guys?
            Just who are my guys? You don’t even know anything about what wrestlers I like at all

            Here’s an interesting fact as well. People like you claim CM Punk’s 434 day reign never drew… except all but 3 of the PPVs while he was champion actually gained buys over the previous year. In fact, excluding WrestleMania 28 (because that was most obviously attributed to The Rock/Cena) his reign wielded a gain of over 250,000 PPV buys.

            See my point? I can use number to prove anyone can be a draw

            Now, go back to your hole where you worship Vince McMahon and your fake disqus profiles where you like to troll.

          • Jay El Bee

            Why would need a comeback, I already proved that 5 of 6 PPVs you tried to blame on Orton were main evented by the “B” show as you put it. And who was main eventing the PPVs and involved in the top angles during Punk’s title reign, because for the most part it wasn’t him. Also this is my one and only Disqus account, so apparently you have other people besides me that call you out on your BS.

          • Bob’s Diner

            Ha ha considering you always state CM Punk doesn’t draw and blame bad ratings and PPV buy rates in 2012 on him, that entire argument in hilarious.

            As always, you miss any point I am actually making because it proves you are wrong on every level. You can’t blame Daniel Bryan for poor PPV buyrates on shows where you refuse to blame others for poor PPV buyrates. Not one wrestler is actually a ‘draw’ as you say, rather WWE the brand is the draw.

            I’ve proved your hypocrisy and it is so incredibly entertaining watching you be so funny about everything. Blah blah Daniel Bryan can’t draw blah blah CM Punk can’t draw blah blah Orton and Cena are superstars. It is hilarious. I’m actually enjoying this now.

            So tell me, why is it 6 months of Raw being built around Randy Orton being a very mean heel and John Cena/Batista and HHH trying to get the title off him NOT the draw card for those PPVs, but the guys that were over on the B show (CM Punk, Jeff Hardy, Undertaker) the ones that should have been the attractions? Raw gets 4 million viewers a week. Smackdown gets 2-2 1/2 viewers a week – why is the draw for the show the matches from the smaller audience? I would like a serious intelligent explanation

          • Jay El Bee

            I don’t know if you know this but back in those days the WWE & World titles were on the same level and it wasn’t unusual for the “B’ shows title to main event PPVs, and since the Hardy-Punk was supposedly the hottest thing going at that time according to the IWC the WWE ran with it. Of course obviously the WWE has learned from their mistakes that Summer and instead going with the IWC thinks is great they go with their proven draws instead.

          • Bob’s Diner

            Proven draws? Oh yeah, because that’s working out real well.
            If those guys were ‘draws’ then it wouldn’t actually matter where they were on the card. A John Cena/Randy Orton iron man match for the WWE title should be a big ‘draw’ in your world.

    • Ben

      You’re one of a handful of people who actually want to see that crapfest with two guys getting X-Pac Heat or nothing at all. It’s not Bryan’s fault he was booked to continuously lose and look like he had no chance whatsoever at overcoming The Authority. The majority of fans are tired of the same old matches. Even Del Rio is getting cheered against Batista and he was getting almost no reaction beforehand. It’s fine if you want to see that match, but you’re in for a rude awakening like Vince and company are if you think that match will get anything other than torn apart and crapped on by most of the fans. Remember Goldberg vs. Lesnar? It might be worse than that.

      • Jay El Bee

        There’s no such thing as X-Pac heat, it’s just a made up term by the IWC that they use for guys they don’t like that can still draw a reaction from the crowd. You people need to stop blaming the WWE for Bryan’s inability to draw, if the people wanted him to be the “top face” they would’ve supported him by watching the shows and buying the PPVs instead of just chanting along with him. And I don’t really care how the crowd reacts, it’s not going to ruin my enjoyment of the match/show. Also I doubt the WWE cares either or at least they shouldn’t, their top stars have been getting crapped on by the live audience for about 10 years now and it really hasn’t hurt them at all.

        • Ben

          That’s cool bro, enjoy your garbage WM match.

          • Jay El Bee

            No thanks I think I’ll skip Bryan’s match this year, just like I do every week on Raw when I change the channel whenever he wrestles and listen to Raw in the background of my computer so I know when it’s safe to change the channel back.

  • Lebron James

    That whole chanting random sh1t during a wrestling match is starting to get really old. I’m honestly sick of it. Reigns and Wyatt didn’t deserve that. I hope it doesn’t continue. At this point, wresting fans attending the shows are ruining the product.

  • George

    Triple H really will be the most arrogant man in the business if he thinks him facing Daniel Bryan will make up for not putting him in the title picture.

    • Avalanchian

      Well maybe they go about it the right way. If Bryan can defeat HHH in his WM match then he can be thrown into the match with Orton and Batista making it a Triple Threat. That is how I would like to see it happen. That way if you have Bryan win he defeated 3 A+ players in 1 night.

      • George

        At the way they’re booking Bryan, I doubt it. Mania is all about build and the only surprises are an appearance or two from legends. At least when Vince McMhaon was a more active on-screen character, he was willing to get the crap beat out of him by guys like Austin, the Rock, and Mick Foley and even humiliate himself on many occasions as his way to put guys over. HHH and Stephanie have not step up to the plate in that regard. Character-wise they made themselves seem almost untouchable for several months now and I’m tired of it. They became boring, stale invincible heels and it’s just dull to watch them as all that’s going to happen is the usual promo and nothing else except maybe them sending other wrestlers to beat down another. Sure Bryan faces HHH at Mania, but so what? He gets an almost meaningless moral victory that he could’ve accomplished at the parking lot last night had they written Bryan to just attack him instead of him being held back by security, that he could’ve easily broken through too. The fact that guys on top such as Triple H, thinks that Bryan facing himself is the equivalent of a title shot or makes up for everything just speaks volumes of how ego-maniacal he is.

  • Jaryd

    The way I see it is if they don’t put DB in the title match I will be happy to see him against Trip.. but I totally won’t be in to the title match at that point with just Randy and Batista

  • Howard Stern

    I hope they stick with their original dumb plan just for the sake of watching the crowd take over the end of wrestlemania

  • ClintMurphy

    why cant the shield just break up without there being a double cross, im sick of these factions turning on one another because of jealousy, its old, have them decide to go there separate ways, and that they would be gunning for one another

  • Notamark

    why is richred gray such a senseless DB mark? it does make sense to have a third person in a match that is only granted to the royal rumble winner. get over yourself all of you DB marks. all of you act if is the main draw to every show , and he is really not. he is an amazing in-ring worker but that is it (he is not even the best in history). i could get CM punk marks, but this DB and the whole riot at WM30 is getting annoying