Raw Results From Grand Rapids, Michigan - Samson Debuts, Heyman Returns

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WWE Raw Results
Monday, May 22, 2017
From the Van Andel Arena in Grand Rapids, Michigan
Report by Kendra Bunyon of WrestlingNewsWorld.com

Raw Starts

Raw this week starts with Bray Wyatt to the ring to command the fans with his voice. Reigns out to face Wyatt, then Angle out to make a match between them for right now. Calls for a ref.

1) Roman Reigns def. Bray Wyatt by DQ Back and forth work between the two before Joe's music and he's to the ring, trying to decide who to attack. He locks onto Reigns who wins via DQ. Wyatt attacks Reigns, and Joe locks onto him. Rollins to the ring onto Joe until he flees. Reigns with a superman punch on Wyatt leaves Rollins and Reigns alone in the ring.

Backstage Reigns and Rollins get cranky about helping each other, so Angle puts them in a tag match. The Drifter comes up playing his guitar, Angle acknowledges his existence. Angle makes his first match, against Ambrose. The Drifter thinks on this, then back to playing his guitar.

2) Akira Tozawa def. Ariya Daivari The Brian Kendrick watches backstage and talks smack about Tozawa. Tozawa defeats Daivari with a back senton off the top. Back to The Brian Kendrick who talks smack again and mentions his scheduled Street Fight with Tozawa on 205 Live this week.

Backstage Sasha is asked about her rubber match with Foxy. Foxy and Dar mock Banks for being all alone.

3) Elias Samson def. Dean Ambrose by DQ Samson sings in the ring to heat from the fans in attendance. Miz and Maryse are on announce. Much back and forth before Miz rushes the ring to attack Samson, costing Ambrose the match by DQ. After the bell Samson attacks Ambrose to leave him laid out on the mat.

Backstage Cass is pissed, demanding to know what happened. They come upon Enzo who is face down on the cement floor, clothing askew, and he's not moving at all. Cass demands answers and help for his friend.

Backstage Enzo has no clue who attacked him from behind. Angle said they will find out who did it. Cass tells Angle that they better find who did it before Cass does!

Heyman gives Balor props for not being an underdog, and that everyone else is underestimating him, but not Heyman. Heyman called him the most talented performer in the WWE today.

4) Finn Balor def. Karl Anderson Balor dominated this match, both in and outside the ring, both Anderson and Gallows. Balor defeated Anderson after taking out both members of The Club by flying outside the ring onto them. The Club is left seething in the ring.

5) Sasha Banks def. Alicia Fox w/ Dar Dar quickly gets involved in the match, making things much harder for Banks. Quickly Banks turns the match around for the three. Dar into the ring to argue with Banks and is slapped to the mat for it, giving Fox time to attack Banks from behind.

Backstage Kalisto gets in Crews' face about letting O'Neil fight his battles for him, then asked if Crews attacked Enzo. Crews says O'Neil is helping him, and he's keeping his options open. O'Neil in and thinks Kalisto wants to be in the Titus Brand. An upset O'Neil said tonight Crews will teach Kalisto some respect in the ring.

6) Kalisto def.Apollo Crews w/ O'Neil After a short match O'Neil's yelling at Crews is enough of a distraction for Kalisto to get the win.

7) Choose The Stipulation (at Extreme Rules) Match – Matt Hardy w/ Jeff def. Sheamus w/ Cesaro Through chants of 'Brother Nero' and 'DELETE' they both worked hard in the ring and out, going back and forth. Their intensity kept the fans in attendance highly involved in the match, and very reactive to their biggest moves, and many pinfall attempts, but in the end Sheamus eats a twist of fate and Matt gets the three. Matt was left with welts and bruises all up the left side of his torso. Matt announces that the stip will be a Steel Cage Match.

8) Austin Aries def. Tony Nese Aries all over Nese from the start of the match, using his moves and holds to keep control over the younger wrestler. Nese tried to fight back but ended up having to tap out to A Double. Neville attacks Nese and locks on the Rings of Saturn, staring up the ramp at Aries the whole time.

9) Alexa Bliss def. Mickie James All of their issues came out from the start of this match. They were all over each other from word go, not holding back, and really making it look like a fight, not just a wrestling match. Not always the cleanest in every move, but hard hitting. Bliss with a DDT for the win over Mickie. Bliss was slightly bleeding from the nose and got mad about it and used a kendo stick on Mickie. Bayley to the ring grabs the kendo stick. Bliss flees the ring.

10) Samoa Joe & Bray Wyatt def. Seth Rollins & Roman Reigns. They all worked hard in a match where the back and forth was constant until Joe locked on his conquida clutch on Rollins. Rollins didn't tap out, he passed out.

Backstage segment where Balor asked to be in the main event next week with one of those guys. Angle puts him in a Triple Threat Match with two of them. Balor vs Joe vs Wyatt. And Reigns will be facing Rollins next week as well, to round out the five!

  • drew

    yooooooo.

  • Woohoo! First!

    • drew

      i beat ya!

      • Yeah, you did. I should have been more on top of it as I’m posting Raw Results tonight. Kind of sad that I wasn’t first as I posted this.

        • drew

          nah it happens. whats up?

          • Not much. Just hoping Raw is better than it has been, and better than the SD PPV was last night!

          • drew

            welll i agree.But i hope it wprls out and mahals reign ends up short or working with rusev or someone becoming champ.

          • I hope they make it worthwhile, even if I don’t like it.

          • drew

            agree.

          • drew

            i hope they give other guys chances too.

          • So many more deserve it, but I’m biased. For me Mahal is right up there with ADR. I just don’t get it, and see more of an issue with him going forward, but I know I have my own definite opinions on things and people within the WWE.

  • CJ Blaze

    Raw has been pretty good lately, so I’m sad I’ll miss it live tonight. Nevertheless, KB is back at the helm! Hopefully it’s 10x better than Backlash. Catch you guys tomorrow!

    • drew

      damn see you man!

    • Love ya, and will miss you CJ.

  • CJ Blaze

    Finn Balor vs. Karl Anderson tonight.

    • drew

      that is interesting.

  • drew

    waiting for my comment to be confirmed.

  • drew

    if mahal gets a chance then sami luke tyler breeze etc will im sure. and i hope.

    • ikon

      Doubtful. They aren’t of a heritage where Vince thinks he can use it to exploit a market.

      • drew

        its not all about that.other things come into place.

        • ikon

          His entire several year history as nothing more than a jobber?

          • drew

            im saying if they get pushed it will be because of other reasons.

          • ikon

            Not in all cases. I get what you mean but sometimes it really is as simple as it seems. I think this is one.

          • drew

            well if its really land of opportunity on smackdown then other people will get chances.

          • ikon

            Thats my point. Other people deserved those chances well before Jinder. He was legit a jobber his entire career until the new India stuff.

          • drew

            true.

  • ikon

    Yo

    • drew

      yo.

  • drew

    here we go! weeeeeee!

  • drew

    i really like how they are booking bray.

    • ikon

      Too bad it might be too little too late at this point. I hope its not but……

      • Stephen Cash

        It’s not.

      • drew

        it isnt.

        • ikon

          Hope not. He literally just runs his mouth and loses over and over and over lol.

      • I don’t think it is. He’s evolving, something I’ve been begging for, and his mic work is back to being great. They have screwed him hard, but I don’t think it’s too late for him. It wasn’t for jobber Mahal…

        • Stephen Cash

          I was and still is too late for Jobber Mahal. WWE will shove him down our throats, but he still sucks in the ring and is stale and boring.

  • Joseph James

    Joe vs bray… pleeeease!!

    • drew

      oooo!

  • RRRROOOOOAAARRRRRR!!!!!

  • drew

    turn him face!

  • Stephen Cash

    Zayn’s win last night had more to do with keeping him a usable jobber than a push didn’t it…darn.

    • drew

      oh.

    • Not sure about that. He was solid on Talking Smack after the PPV and looked good there. They just need to find his niche, which isn’t always easy.

  • He’s become slightly fresher lately. He’s not as repetitive as he was. This makes far better TV.

  • Okay, so Bray’s gonna be Tween. I can dig it.

    • drew

      really

      • That’s what he said, “there are no friends in my world, only followers”.

        • drew

          true.

  • Joseph James

    Anyone but you Roman

    • Xavier

      Jinder Mahal?

      • drew

        here he is.

  • drew

    here comes superman.

  • Is it just me or do these PPV’s come way too fast now?

    • drew

      they do.

    • ikon

      Way too many…. They need to alternate months or something.

    • One a month per brand, and NXT TakeOvers. The only redeeming thing is NXT!

  • Look. Bray is doing what we’re all doing. Laughing our heads off…LOL!!

  • Stephen Cash

    I still hope they figure out something for MITB… Stupid to make it a one brand show…

  • Elizabeth Sherwood

    Hey everyone, tonight, I want to open with us remembering our brothers and sisters in the U.K. After an Ariana Grande concert, two explosive devices went off at the Manchester Center. There are multiple casualties. Please, keep these families in your thoughts and prayers tonight.

    • drew

      defintely!

    • Stephen Cash

      20 the last I heard. Prayers up!

    • Oh, that’s awful!!! I had no idea!! Those poor people!

      • Elizabeth Sherwood

        Absolutely… And this strikes home for us in WWE, as the Manchester Arena is where WWE runs on the U.K. Tours.

        • It strikes me because it’s an absolutely horrible act in a place where people went for no other reason than to escape life and enjoy themselves. Truly diabolical.

          • Elizabeth Sherwood

            Yes… I hope these assholes that did this face Hel’s wrath.

        • Mandy

          This is heartbreaking there are people on Twitter searching for the missing loved ones.

    • Mandy

      OMG I had no idea

  • drew

    damn i love this music.

  • Mandy

    I love the way Kurt has embraced the You Suck chants, he has this huge smile on his face. Too good!

  • Stephen Cash

    I feel like both brands (RAW especially) need a big change. Like a returning superstar or something.

    • drew

      or an impace heel or face turn. something.

  • “BIG M” Adams.

    Hello WNW people!

    • drew

      hey!

    • The British Contingent has ARRIVED!

      • Elizabeth Sherwood

        He is Aussie you dolt! *DDTs you into the dilapidated boat, sinking it in the Lake of Rejuvenation*

    • Xavier

      Go away

      • drew

        ouch.

      • Dang!

        • Xavier

          Lol

      • WELL then!

        • Xavier

          😁😁

      • Elizabeth Sherwood

        *Canes Botch a la Sandman*

      • “BIG M” Adams.

        Gee, nice welcome after I’ve been away so long LOL.

    • drew

      i guess x doesnt want you here.

      • Xavier

        Lol

  • Elizabeth Sherwood

    BOTCH… BE REBORN!

  • Stephen Cash

    Also read that Zach Snyder’s (DCCU) daughter committed suicide. Prayers up there as well.

  • drew

    wonder how long til roman buries bray here. lol.

    • Elizabeth Sherwood

      6:45

      • drew

        haha.

    • Joseph James

      I was just gonna say. Watch out for Joe.

  • Stephen Cash

    Bray needs to go over here, but he won’t.

  • drew

    here comes seth.

  • Scott

    When Angle returns to wrestle who should he face?

    A. Seth Rollins
    B. Roman Reigns
    C. Samoa Joe
    D. AJ Styles (crossbrand)
    E. Finn Balor

    • Stephen Cash

      Joe

    • Xavier

      Seth Rollins or Roman Reigns

    • drew

      joe

    • Joseph James

      I’d say somebody he’s familiar with in the ring. Probably Joe.

  • Elizabeth Sherwood

    And Roman wins via DQ. God forbid Roman lose a match!

  • Elizabeth Sherwood

    Whose music is that?

    • Joseph James

      The Extreme Rules theme?

  • CM Punk

    who the heck musics playing?

  • drew

    weird.

  • Stephen Cash

    Was someone new supposed to debut there… lol

  • Stephen Cash

    Why was Balor not even included in that opening segment?

    • Xavier

      Because this segment was for guys 200 pounds and up

      • Stephen Cash

        Raw’s off to a weird (not good) start…

        • Xavier

          Yeah the opening segment and sagway into the match and even the interference came off kind of awkward

  • #LoveAndObeyTheOwl

    • Elizabeth Sherwood

      *Gives Botch a GLORIOUS DDT back into the Lake*

      • I…YOU WON’T…I CANNOT…I….

        • Elizabeth Sherwood

          BECOME GLORIOUS!

        • Elizabeth Sherwood

          PS, that DDT is VERY close to my old finisher.

  • “BIG M” Adams.

    Honestly, at this point I just feel badly for Roman!
    His push has been so poorly booked from day one and fans still aren’t warming up to him.
    The guy is just a natural heel in every way IMO!
    Babyface push (especially top babyface) is simply never going to work now.
    Too much damage has been done!

    • Stephen Cash

      Tell that to VKM

    • Xavier

      And I feel badly for you that you had to watch Romsn headline not 1, not 2 but 3 WrestleMania’s and read about how your favorite wrestler Undertaker handpicked Roman to retire him 😉

      • “BIG M” Adams.

        I had ZERO issue with Roman retiring Taker actually!
        But he should have done so as a heel IMO!

    • drew

      romans not a good guy. not a bad guy hes the guy.

      • CryoKnight

        He’s just a guy

  • Elizabeth Sherwood

    DRIFTER!

  • Stephen Cash

    I really don’t think I’m overreacting when I say I don’t think WWE has been this bad in a long while.

  • Elizabeth Sherwood

    YES!!! Dean vs Samson!

  • drew

    nice dean vs samson.

    • Xavier

      Would be a good feud

    • Elizabeth Sherwood

      That alone will keep my butt in my seat!

    • Xavier

      I hope Dean doesn’t bury Samoson like he did Corbin at WM

      • drew

        what a burial that would be.

        • Xavier

          Lol

      • Stephen Cash

        Samson will win via Miz int.

  • Joseph James

    Hmmm.

  • Stephen Cash

    Samson better go over. Should be clean, but we all know Miz will interfere.

    • Elizabeth Sherwood

      I want Samson to get a great push. Have him win here, and take the title off Dean at Balls.

      • Stephen Cash

        I think Miz will take the title off ambrose at ER.

    • JeanVice

      I know I’m chiming in late, but just about EVERY NXT call up wins their first match now. I wish they would shake it up and deal out a loss and have that person work their way up to a win.

  • Stephen Cash

    NEXT?!? I’m exciting about something on WWE programming! YEAH!!

  • Xavier

    Anyone else agree with Jericho that Cass & Enzo should split and move Enzo into the CW division and push him there instead?

    • CM Punk

      no,

    • drew

      i do. makes alot of sense.

    • Stephen Cash

      If they split Zo will go back to NXT. He sucks in the ring.

      • Xavier

        True but he’s still over though

        • ldb

          yup

        • Stephen Cash

          They’ve drastically ruined Cass and Enzo. I don’t think the Enzo losing every time protects Cass like they think either.

          • Xavier

            It doesn’t. Bringing in the Hardyz at Mania really killed any momentum Cass & Enzo had

  • ldb

    bad late anything good yet

  • Stephen Cash

    Friday Night Tykes represents most of the reasons I won’t let my child play football (also concussions).

  • Joseph James

    Sasha can boss me around anytime she wants.

  • Xavier

    This ain’t no Rock concert lol

    • drew

      lol that was the best.

  • Hello, MINIONS! “Raw” has JUST become GLORIOUS!

    • Elizabeth Sherwood

      There we go!

  • Xavier

    Ambrose is the perfect feud for Sampson to start off with. (Hopefully)

  • “BIG M” Adams.

    I attended the NXT show in Melbourne Australia last year…The crowd gave Samson a pretty rough time.
    I felt pretty badly for him!

  • drew

    i honestly dont know much about samson.

    • He’s a heel magnet. LOVE him.

      • drew

        hmm lets see how he does.

    • Elizabeth Sherwood

      He’s a triple threat. He’s good in the ring, he’s creative on the mic especially with his songs, and he’s got the look of a star.

      • drew

        looking forward to seeing him more.

  • “Johnny Cash’s death rattle”… GLORIOUS!

  • ldb

    i really like samson that was like harry heck singing to the punisher

    • Scott

      That is pretty cool

  • Scott

    Does it make me crazy to say I get a huge Randy Savage vibe from Elias Samson?!?!??

  • Stephen Cash

    Samson is the best thing on Raw right now.

    • Elizabeth Sherwood

      One of them. Sadly, it seems all of the great talent Raw has is on the heel side of the coin.

      • drew

        rollins finn reigns?dean?

        • Elizabeth Sherwood

          Rollins has been falling flat as a face in my opinion. He’s like Orton. His character really didn’t change.

          Reigns is a heel. Vince just refuses to acknowledge it!

          Dean is on the upswing, and may be great again, but let himself be mucked down before the Shake Up.

          Finn is doing great, but he’s not been back very long. He has to rebuild.

          • drew

            im talking about talent. face wise they are fine.

          • Elizabeth Sherwood

            But look at the depth heel wise. Bray, Miz, Joe, Braun (yes he’s injured but still counts), Sheamus and Cesaro if they break up, Samson, and Neville.

          • drew

            true.

          • ldb

            amen. rollins still sounds whiny too much to me.

    • Too soon for me to feel positively yet. “Raw” has proven how thoroughly it can kill talent.

      • Stephen Cash

        He’s been the best thing since he stepped on that stage.

        • I’m being cautious. They’ve killed people I’ve enjoyed before. It’s not too late for Vince to sour on him. It’s all about crowd reaction. This is really the first time we’re getting a taste of whether or not he’s “over”.

  • ldb

    how long till the shield reforms?

    • drew

      sometime this year.

    • Elizabeth Sherwood

      Survivor Series.

      • Stephen Cash

        Was typing this same thing. Not a real reuniting yet though

      • ldb

        think they feud with an emerging SaNity

    • Bobby

      They would have to turn Roman face first.

      • Stephen Cash

        They don’t know how…

        • Bobby

          Ok. How about Ambrose and Rollins heel?

      • ldb

        ha the shield is only chance at that

        • Bobby

          Or maybe a returning Bootista. Or is it Bluetista?

  • “BIG M” Adams.

    Samson holding his own performance wise with Ambrose here!
    I’m impressed!

    • ldb

      looks great. nice clean moves

      • Elizabeth Sherwood

        He is VERY crisp in the ring.

  • Very nice-looking knee there!

  • That was GENIUS!

  • Stephen Cash

    Did anyone else notice Randy kicked out last night?

    • drew

      he did.

  • Elizabeth Sherwood

    And Samson wins! He gets to be next in line!

    • drew

      va dq.

      • Elizabeth Sherwood

        Still a win over the IC Champ!

        • drew

          true!

  • No one is hurt here in the slightest. Samson looks good, Ambrose looks fine, Miz looks good. Everyone wins.

  • ldb

    miz the real cerebral assassin

  • drew

    nice to make him look good.

  • Elizabeth Sherwood

    Ok, while I love everything else about Samson, his finisher is too close to Sister Abigail.

    • Bobby

      “The Crossroads”?

  • Elizabeth Sherwood

    Enzo got knocked out of his kicks!

  • Xavier

    Lol Enzo stay getting punked.

  • Xavier

    Apollo Crews going Savage

    • drew

      what happened?

      • Xavier

        Enzo was found unconscious backstage

        • drew

          oh yeah my bad lol.

  • Stephen Cash

    So do we think the Orton kick out is part of the storyline? I just feel like Orton wins it back…maybe even Tomorrow.

    • Xavier

      Doubt it. But I guess we’ll find out tomorrow

    • ldb

      that would suck. i still want rusev in the picture.

      • Stephen Cash

        I want Orton vs Styles for the title. I would have had Rusev cost Mahal.

    • drew

      anything is possible. look what happened last night.

  • Xavier

    What if Cass attacked him 🤔

    • Bobby

      I was hoping the same.

    • drew

      YES!

    • drew

      sorta like back in the day hbk was attacked and ended up being hhh.

      • Xavier

        Lol yup

  • CM Punk

    my prediction is that it was cass who attacked him

  • “BIG M” Adams.

    Poor Enzo has been left laying so often on WWE TV it’s amazing it isn’t a series of memes by now!

    • Elizabeth Sherwood

      Make it happen!

      • “BIG M” Adams.

        Love to…but don’t have the time!

  • ldb

    this bum couldnt beat a one armed roman

    • Elizabeth Sherwood

      Which bum?

      • ldb

        balor last week it was a joke

        • Elizabeth Sherwood

          I missed last week. Damn!

          • ldb

            no that summed it up pretty well.

  • Bobby

    What if it was Rikishi? He did it for the rock.

    • Elizabeth Sherwood

      He did for the PEOPLE!

      • Bobby

        I would be ok if he took Enzo out for us.

    • ldb

      nah it was the black scorpion

  • Xavier

    What was the deal with all the gay jokes about Balor last week on the Internet?

    • “BIG M” Adams.

      Jeolas that he’s dating Charlie?

      • Elizabeth Sherwood

        He’s not dating Charlie, or Cathy Kelly.

  • BOTCH!!!

  • Elizabeth Sherwood

    HEYMAN!!!

  • Xavier

    Balor/Lesnar is happening

    • drew

      yup. teasing it.

      • Xavier

        If y’all thought Mahal was stiff with Balor then y’all gonna hate how Lesnar tosses him around

        • ldb

          like orton launching a bollywood boy

  • CM Punk

    my man!

  • Very shaky mic work from Balor there

    • Xavier

      Probably why Heyman was sent out before he was suppose too

    • Stephen Cash

      He’s always weak on the mic.

  • Stephen Cash

    So Balor is winning at Extreme Rules!!!!

  • “BIG M” Adams.

    Who thinks Balor will form the Club at Extreme Rules to help him win?

    • Xavier

      Doubt it.

      • “BIG M” Adams.

        Be a good way to dull NJPW’s impact in the US!
        Bullet Club is a BIG part of the companies current success overseas!

        • Elizabeth Sherwood

          And what is fueling their US interest.

        • Xavier

          Lesnar/Strowman is a much bigger deal then Lesnar/Balor

          • Elizabeth Sherwood

            Here’s how I see it going down. Bálor wins at Balls via Heyman turning on Brock, and Brock is FUMING the next night. He demands his rematch that night on Raw, and we get him to the ring and the bell rings. Then… BRRRRRAAAAAAAUN! Braun runs down and DESTROYS Lesnar in the middle of the ring, setting up Braun vs Brock at SS.

    • Joseph James

      Too good to be true.

    • Stephen Cash

      That would kind of mean he’d have to feud with someone in that match though (who they cheated).

  • Xavier

    It’s gonna take a Roman Empire to conquer a beast

    • drew

      oh god.

      • Xavier

        You enjoyed the show so much more before the IWC poisoned your mind. You joined Big M on the dark side and you’ve been miserable ever since lol

        • ikon

          IWC? You mean VKM lol

          • Xavier

            😂😂😂😂😂

        • drew

          i enjoy roman fine. but i have always thought he should be heel and you ruin him for me lol.

          • Xavier

            Lol you guys complete me

          • drew

            well thank you jerry mcguire. lol.

    • ikon

      That VKM truth hurts me physically lol

    • #NoOneBeatsRomanReigns

  • ikon

    I kind of don’t want Balor/Brock at this point. It isn’t believable at all. He couldn’t beat 50% of Reigns….

    • Xavier

      If you guys thought Mahal was stiff with Balor y’all are gonna hate the way Brock tosses Balor around.

      • ikon

        Oh it isn’t going to be good. I don’t want that match at all honestly.

  • Elizabeth Sherwood

    Bálor as a Heyman Guy?

    • drew

      i like it.

    • ikon

      Heyman costs Brock would be amazing….. That would be the ONLY way I want this match to happen.

      • ldb

        heyman managing the balor club have them take ou lesnar and id be happy

        • Harshit Arora

          Have them take out lesnar and anyone else who crosses their path, let them have a good heel run, and then let them turn face when
          The authority returns and interferes during their match at survivor series and beats them down. Culminate the feud at WM34.

  • CM Punk

    WOW high praise… i think balor could be good as a heyman guy if they have a real friendship, and balor needs a mouthpiece

  • Can Heyman just talk for the rest of the night?

  • CM Punk

    raw could legit just be heyman with open mic shooting, and id enjoyed every second of it and ratings would go up

  • Heyman remains compelling even when he’s not talking.

  • Elizabeth Sherwood

    Club!

  • Poor Mark Morrison…ROFL!!!

  • conan_kun

    WWE doing anything to get Roman cheers by let him team with babyface

  • Xavier

    A Styles, Nakamura & Balor stable sometime in the future would be dope. Gallows & Anderson are about as entertaining as watching grass grow though, putting Balor with them would only drag Balor down IMO

    • drew

      interesting. them vs shield is money!

  • Gee, guess Enzo and Cass will come out for retribution. I know it sounds far-fetched but it could happen…or something.

  • Stephen Cash

    Can we just get Sasha vs Bliss already!

    • ikon

      Sasha can’t beat Foxy lol she isn’t on Bliss level anymore

      • Stephen Cash

        No one is more pessimistic than you. One loss isn’t everything. Orton lost to Mahal last night. geez…

        • ikon

          It was a joke hence the lol. Sasha is clearly still a star. Relax

          • Stephen Cash

            ok cool. So many people last weak were acting like that was the end of Sasha.

          • ikon

            It was a bad move but she is above one loss. It was just a damn silly loss

  • conan_kun

    It’s Big Cass jump Enzo, right?

    • Xavier

      Yeah I hope so. If they won’t strap Cass & Enzo at this point then they might as well break them up

      • ikon

        Probably should have awhile ago at this point honestly. Be more interesting than what they have been doing.

    • drew

      i hope so. or crews.

  • “BIG M” Adams.

    Anderson is a lot better in the ring than people give him credit for!

    • drew

      he solid.

    • ikon

      He is really good. Which is why I’m so frustrated at the Club’s booking

    • Stephen Cash

      Gallows is too. They are just boring…

      • ikon

        That short time with AJ they were getting something good going….

      • Booked badly. They have so much more than they show in the WWE.

  • Whoa! It ended clean with no interference. Color me shocked!

  • ikon

    Seriously though. How strong does Roman have to get booked? Balor can’t beat 50% of Reigns but can beat basically both members of The Club? And on the same note why the F are they booked so weak?!

  • Stephen Cash

    They need to move MITB back to WM.

  • “BIG M” Adams.

    Matt wins and we get a Ladder match at ER!
    Obvious I know, but still…

    • Elizabeth Sherwood

      Sheamus wins and we get the return of the Bar Room Brawl!

  • ikon

    Graves you are fantastic but NOBODY believes Balor has any chance against Brock lol

    • drew

      doing his job. lol.

      • ikon

        He is really great too. Just those Cole-esque comments man… sheesh…

    • Stephen Cash

      Mahal beat Orton. Anything can happen.

      • ikon

        Remember Orton vs Brock? Not anything can happen when it comes to Bork Laser.

        • Stephen Cash

          I think Strowman takes it off him, but I wouldn’t be against a Balor win.

          • ikon

            It just wouldn’t seem believable at this point. Balor hasn’t been built up enough. Like I said he can’t even beat 50% of Reigns. After they build him properly maybe. I don’t think anyone takes it off him until Reigns at Mania cuz thats what the fans want lol

          • Elizabeth Sherwood

            Fans = VKM

          • ikon

            @Xavier got me confused earlier when he mixed up IWC and VKM I dunno what I’m saying anymore!

  • Scott

    My thoughts and prayers are with everyone affected by the terrorist attack at Manchester Arena!

  • “BIG M” Adams.

    Foxy really is awful in the ring!

    • ikon

      That northern lights tho!

    • Stephen Cash

      She botched the finish last weak… kicked in the back.,,

  • Elizabeth Sherwood

    Foxy may do a lot of great charity work… but gods she sucks in the ring!

    • Stephen Cash

      Why not do Emma vs Banks instead..?

      • Elizabeth Sherwood

        Emma is out with an injury.

        • Stephen Cash

          Forgot about that…

        • Stephen Cash

          Paige? I’ll see myself out.

          • Elizabeth Sherwood

            *DDTs Stephen*

  • Poor Sasha…

  • Xavier

    Booker T’s commentary cracks me up lol

  • Xavier

    Turn Titus into a Lavar Ball type character.

    • YES!

    • Elizabeth Sherwood

      He already is!

    • drew

      dont think he could pull it off.

    • ldb

      new tshirt… if it spends im in!

  • drew

    i hope hes turning heel.

  • Xavier

    You know you done messed up now right

    😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • He said “respek” LOL!!!!

  • Elizabeth Sherwood

    Pesos, Euros, Pesos, Food Stamps, Coupons… LOL!

  • “BIG M” Adams.

    Am I the only one that really digs Kalisto’s new look?

    • ikon

      I do but its a complete ripoff lol. Lucha Underground is invading!

      • Stephen Cash

        As long as they bring JoMo back with them. Deal.

  • Xavier

    It’s scary how much Kalisto even sounds like Rey Mysterio

    • Legen Dary

      Too bad he didn’t get the love backstage like Rey

    • “BIG M” Adams.

      He doesn’t work like him though!
      Hell, who could?

      • Xavier

        Yeah Rey’s a tough act to follow

        • “BIG M” Adams.

          One of the best ever!
          Revolutionised the industry forever.

          • Stephen Cash

            His injuries were awful. Seemed as soon as he came back he was out again.

          • Only toward the end of his run. Early on he was really strong – even though his knees were shot from his early work in WCW.

      • Stephen Cash

        Kalisto is a great worker though.

        • “BIG M” Adams.

          Oh absolutely!
          All he needs is the right push.

      • Legen Dary

        Luke Harper could

    • I have noticed that. It’s a bit unnerving.

  • “BIG M” Adams.

    That MITB song makes me nauseous now considering its origins!

  • conan_kun

    Why do Alicia lose twice not via Bank Statement, because she’s not deserved to lose by finishing move.

  • ikon

    WWE amuses me so much sometimes. One of the most popular tag teams? People give an ish about this? Sheesh lol

  • drew

    nice i used to like these!

  • Xavier

    I’ll give RAW credit for atleast trying to make everybody relevant (Goldust, R-Truth, Alicia Fox, Apollo Crews) with angles

    • ikon

      True. Can’t take that away from them but sheesh nobody cares about any of them anymore lol.

  • Scott

    WHOA!!!! LOVE THE THROWBACK GOLDUST!

  • Goldust is going back to old skool-ish Goldust.

    • Xavier

      Bring back the wig and Marlena

      • Elizabeth Sherwood

        We can do without Marlena.

        • Agreed! Watching 1998, and the way she ran around after Goldy and Val made me gag.

  • Elizabeth Sherwood

    Goldust is back to his old character and form! Awesome!

  • BlazeKing

    Hey look, it’s ol’ Razor Ramon stalking Goldust!!!

  • “BIG M” Adams.

    Goldust going back to his classic persona as far as PG will allow!
    I LOVE IT!!!

  • Xavier

    Alexia Bliss reminds me so much of heel Trish circa 2004/early 2005

    • ldb

      yes !

  • RUSSO!!!

  • Scott

    Kendo stick on a pole match……..Russo back with em?

  • ikon

    What is with her head banging while talking?

  • “BIG M” Adams.

    A lot of unfortunate memes popped up online after Alexa pulled out that Kendo Stick LOL!

  • ikon

    That might be the best kendo shot we have seen in a LONG time

  • Elizabeth Sherwood

    Oooof! That welt! ❤️ I want one…

  • CM Punk

    bliss is perfection

  • Stephen Cash

    Oh man… that gimmick match is so rough…

  • ikon

    Jeez even Booker dismissing Bayley.

  • Xavier
    • “BIG M” Adams.

      Theres always one LOL!

    • ldb

      i will always love roman is worse than polio

      • Xavier

        I gotta admit that one made me laugh too

      • ikon

        Beat me too it while trying to post that picture haha

    • ikon

      Boo I can’t post a picture for some reason. “Roman is worse than Polio!”

  • ldb

    i hope braun comes back 100% i miss him not being through yet. injury sucks

    • Xavier

      He was knocking the monster heel shtick out of the park. I really wanted to see Lesnar/Strowman.

      • Stephen Cash

        It’s happening.

      • ldb

        i hope it doesnt take 6 months but i ddont want him rushed too soon

  • Stephen Cash

    Cole and the announce crew are burying Strowman hard… Making him look weak.

    • ikon

      Anything to make Reigns look strong. ANYTHING.

    • ldb

      braun will put cole in an ambulance and flip it off a bridge

    • Harshit Arora

      I thought strowman was the one receiving the push. Hmmm… 🙁

  • Xavier

    Kalisto done messed up.

  • Elizabeth Sherwood

    Who wants to bet Cass attacks Titus in this match?

  • ikon

    That isn’t Kalisto…. Thats Drago from Lucha Underground

    • drew

      ha! love that show!

      • ikon

        I love the look but DAMN what a ripoff haha

        • Elizabeth Sherwood

          If only WWE could rip off the storytelling!

          • ikon

            HAH ain’t that the truth!

  • “BIG M” Adams.

    I like both these guys, but they need to be built up more before people would be invested in a match between them!

    • Xavier

      I think this is more about building Crews up as a heel gradually

    • Xavier

      Nevermind lol

      • ikon

        WOW…..

  • Xavier

    I think Crews and Alexander would make a really good tag team under Titus.

    • ikon

      Arrogant arse heels with him as the self benefiting manager? I love it.

  • Newflash: All Rite-Aids and CVS’s are out of baby oil.

    • Elizabeth Sherwood

      It’s all on Titus’ head. #Blinding

      • It’s all on Apollo. He’s dripping in it. Dag!

        • ikon

          I think Titus just rubbed his head on Apollo to get rid of some excess lol

  • Xavier

    Give me a stable with Crews, Alexander and Moose (if they ever sign him) under the Titus brand with Titus saying over the top ish to promote his brand and clients

    • ikon

      You’re having some great ideas tonight

    • Moose has a “history”. Never happen.

  • Elizabeth Sherwood

    Titus is officially Lavar Ball.

    • Xavier

      And I love it

    • ldb

      just a less annoying version

      • Elizabeth Sherwood

        That’s not a hard mark to hit.

    • drew

      a little less irritating yes..

  • ldb

    first he beat strowman now crews

  • good evening.

    • drew

      wow. hi.

    • ldb

      like the new name

    • Elizabeth Sherwood

      Lol!!!! Really?!

    • Elizabeth Sherwood

      INSTANT ROMAN HEAT!

    • “BIG M” Adams.

      Man alive I admire your bravery LOL!

    • GLORIOUS!

  • conan_kun

    When will they put Kalisto into Cruiserweight division

  • Xavier

    My prediction for future feuds coming out of Extreme Rules

    Lesnar/Balor

    Reigns/Miz

    Rollins/Wyatt

    Ambrose/Sampson

    Bliss/Sasha

    Cass/Enzo

    • “BIG M” Adams.

      Makes sense!

    • drew

      maybe.

    • ikon

      I just don’t get the Reigns/Miz one. I know they want him to do something until Mania and Brock but IC seems odd for how they want him booked/pushed. Balor/Brock is probable but not really interesting at this point in time.

      • Xavier

        Miz shooting on Roman would be freaking epic, I think it makes a ton of sense

        • Stephen Cash

          You’re crazy if you think they’ll let Miz do that.

          • Xavier

            They would, they let him shoot on Cena

          • ikon

            I dunno. Reigns isn’t near Miz or Cena on mic. Cena can combat it I dunno if Reigns could yet.

        • “BIG M” Adams.

          The promos would have to be a 180 from the ones he cut on Bryan though!

          • Points out 360 would be the same promos.

          • “BIG M” Adams.

            I corrected the mistake LOL.
            Cut me some slack..I’m Live tweeting Raw as well!

          • Xavier

            Lol

        • ikon

          That WOULD be good. Just the IC seems so lowly these days. Not sure how you go from Miz to Bork Laser. Hard to tell that story.

          • Xavier

            Ambrose/Sampson would be the IC title feud if I was booking

          • ikon

            Ah that makes much more sense but I see Sampson costing Ambrose.

  • ldb

    still cant wait for matt to break

  • Elizabeth Sherwood

    DELETE!

  • drew

    wonder if we will ever see broken hardy.

    • Xavier

      Definitely, just a matter of when

    • I have no doubt we will….and it will be WONDERFUL!

    • ldb

      i hope

    • Elizabeth Sherwood

      After SS, I’d bet.

      • Stephen Cash

        Is that Summer Slam or Survivor Series?

        • Elizabeth Sherwood

          SummerSlam.

  • “BIG M” Adams.

    I FADE AWAY AND CLASSIFY MYSELF AS…

  • ikon

    I always worry that necklace Jeff wears is gonna jab him in the throat or chest or something seriously bad

  • conan_kun

    I heard WWE has no interest to bring Broken gimmick for Hardys

    • Where’d you hear that? Dutch Mantel?

    • Stephen Cash

      Just a ploy. Maybe to make TNA value it less.

    • Elizabeth Sherwood

      That is utter BS. Vince wants to, but is waiting on the settlement to be finished.

      • Stephen Cash

        A top Exec at Impact said VKM isn’t interested in it. I think WWE is playing them.

        • Elizabeth Sherwood

          Impact is always full of crap. Tell me the last time they were actually truthful with their fans, much less their talent.

          • Stephen Cash

            Tell that to Del Ri… I mean El Patron.

          • Elizabeth Sherwood

            Del Rio, the biggest self entitled piece of crap the business has built the last 7 years? He’s too drunk/high to count for anything!

          • Stephen Cash

            What is Paige thinking?!?

          • Elizabeth Sherwood

            Free coke?

    • ikon

      I wouldn’t put it past Vince to ignore such a great thing that isn’t his but it would be such a lost opportunity at millions of dollars millions of dollars.

      • There’s no way he’d ignore “Broken” brilliance. It’s money. All day.

        • ikon

          I don’t think he would either cuz of all that $$$$$ but I COULD see him ignoring it cuz he is senile and didn’t create it.

          • Nah. He won’t ignore money. He’s not that stupid.

          • ikon

            I dunno these days lol. But no I really don’t think he would either. I can just picture it.

          • Elizabeth Sherwood

            Not money that made the Hardys millions of dollars.

          • ikon

            Yeah I don’t think he would at all. Just saying it wouldn’t surprise me lol

    • Xavier

      I’ve heard the complete opposite. They’ve been fighting TNA in court for the rights to the gimmicks

  • “BIG M” Adams.

    I think Matt Hardy has gotten better in the ring with age!

    • ikon

      I think he was always underrated.

      • JeanVice

        Agreed.

  • “DELETE” chants. MARVELOUS “Delete” chants!

  • Stephen Cash

    Does Paige ever return to WWE?

    • Never, ever.

    • ikon

      About the same time CM Punk does. Half past never.

    • “BIG M” Adams.

      Probably 50/50 at this point!

    • ldb

      he s too busy doing yoga and saving lives

    • Not as along as she remains with Del Rio.

    • Elizabeth Sherwood

      They are going to run her contract out. She will not appear on WWE TV again, because of ADR.

      • ikon

        I mean its because of her. That was her choice to be/stay with him. Not really his fault.

        • Elizabeth Sherwood

          Yes, but his influence was the start of it. See my above comment. It’s not totally “her choice”.

          • ikon

            I think thats speculating more based on opinion of him honestly. We don’t really have any clue. But I don’t care enough either way to even discuss it further lol

          • Elizabeth Sherwood

            Well, I’ll say this, if you want more info, I’d be willing to share on FB. It’s of a nature that we don’t publish it on WNW, and I have confirmed sources on it.

          • ikon

            If you have info on it I’ll take your word for it. Just from what I see here it seemed more as speculating/opinion. So I’ll trust you on it cuz I honestly don’t care that much lol. Just was being the other side of the coin.

      • Stephen Cash

        Why is she giving up her dream (see Total Divas) for a piece of garbage?

        • Elizabeth Sherwood

          Um… that subject is NOT PG. I’ll just say that they have a TPE relationship.

    • Xavier

      Yup

  • Is it Sheamus or Becky Lynch in the ring tonight?

    • ikon

      The Red Rooster returned to glory last night!

  • Xavier

    Matt & Sheamus have been two of the most reliable workers in the world this past decade

    • Stephen Cash

      I’ve always thought Sheamus was insanely boring…

      • Elizabeth Sherwood

        He may “boring”, but he’s a damn consistent worker in that ring. He’s able to work a great match with almost anyone.

        • Stephen Cash

          I’d agree with that. His partner is horribly underutilized though…

    • ikon

      Matt for sure. I dunno about Sheamus.

    • Regardless of what some idiots think of Sheamus. he is a solid worker.

      • ikon

        Salty tonight? Idiots because people may not think he is super reliable? Kicking a guys tooth out isn’t great.

        • I’m more refering to the people that blame him for ending Bryan’s career.

          • ikon

            Ah ok. That seemed rather aggressive for the conversation lol.

          • Stephen Cash

            He did WHAT?. Where does that even come from?

          • ikon

            He gave him a concussion so people blame him for it.

          • Elizabeth Sherwood

            Sheamus gave Bryan the concussion that finished his career.

        • Xavier

          Happens. Joe ended Tyson’s career and he’s still considered a great worker. Rey killed a dude and he’s considered the greatest Lucha ever still

          • ikon

            I was just using it as an example. I don’t really have an opinion on Sheamus either way. That comment just seemed super angry on not much basis.

        • Elizabeth Sherwood

          Accidents happen in those ropes. We know that. I’d still take a tooth knocked out over a bad match!

          • ikon

            Yeah just an example of why people wouldn’t think he was great. I don’t think he is bad by any means. Just responding to my perceived salt of his comment.

        • JeanVice

          AJ knocked out Miz’s tooth. Keep that in mind. It happens.

      • Xavier

        Agreed. Dude has always been solid a dependable

  • drew

    solid match.

  • Joseph James

    I say a ladder match is too obvious. Do something different.

  • drew

    tease of broken matt.

  • drew

    steel cage you got ur wish joseph i mean lol..

  • Joseph James

    Nice

  • ikon

    $5 says Jeff finally kills himself in the ring off the top of that cage (sarcasm!)

    • He still holds the dumbest thing I ever seen in a cage match. It’s a tag team match with the dudleyz. Matt has already escaped the cage and he’s on top of the cage set to get out and win the titles and he jumped off it to try to hit the dudleys in the ring and missed. 1 3D through a table later they lost the match because Matt couldn’t re-enter it,

      • ikon

        LOL probably hurt himself in the process too.

  • ikon

    Anyone else get the Mac N Cheetos commercial? The F is wrong with the US?!?!?

    • Elizabeth Sherwood

      We can’t stand normal food. Seriously though, I hate our fast food “creations”.

      • ikon

        Its really disgusting….

    • People will eat just about anything if you deep fry it here in the US.

      • ikon

        Its so wrong! Both nasty processed garbage that isn’t food anywhere else in the world.

        • Mac and Cheese is probably my favorite food. and I like Cheetos. but I won’t eat that.

          • ikon

            I don’t mind them separately but together is just the grossness of the US defined.

          • in terms of weird food though. we don’t hold a candle to the Japanese.

          • ikon

            Yeah thats for sure. But at least most of their weird food is actually food and not two processed fake foods mashed together and fried lol.

          • Elizabeth Sherwood

            And actually tastes GREAT!

          • ikon

            Japanese weird food? YUP!

    • BlazeKing

      Don’t ever go to Japan, then… I don’t know if you could handle their mindf*** creations!!!

      • Elizabeth Sherwood

        Japanese food… *drools*

      • ikon

        I love Japanese food lol. And at least it is real food! Not two processed fake “foods” being combined and fried!

  • Elizabeth Sherwood

    Is Nese the No Fly Zone guy?

    • “BIG M” Adams.

      No, thats Drew Gulak!

      • Elizabeth Sherwood

        That should show how much they are blending together.

    • ikon

      Gulak

  • Elizabeth Sherwood

    And Voldemort chants.

    • ikon

      Nobody cares. The CWs get treated like third class citizens.

    • “BIG M” Adams.

      It still cracks me up that you refer to Punk as “He who must not be names” LMFAO!

      • BlazeKing

        I love the consistency!

  • ikon

    Why did Vince have to put his senile hands on the cruiserweights? After the CWC I had so much hope for these guys but good freaking lord what a disaster…..

  • Oh good. It’s over. I can start watching again. Neville and Aries haven’t made this nonsense “must watch” because we have no reason to care about anyone else. Heck, I don’t even care as much about Jack Gallagher as I did. His spark is largely gone.

    • ikon

      Too much repeated shtick. Same thing as Enzo/Cass for me. Same thing over and over and over and over and over.

  • BlazeKing

    Drew’s gonna dethrone Roode, watch!

    • I’m going with Roderick Strong as the one to conquer The Glorious One.

      • ikon

        I’d love that but I think it would be Drew too

      • BlazeKing

        I don’t see it happening before Drew gets a shot. I don’t think HHH will wait until the “Galloway Momentum” wears off in order to ride it.

        • I think Drew will get the next shot at Roode. I just don’t think he will win it.

          • BlazeKing

            And that’s what the next TakeOver will revolve around since Hideo is obviously gonna beef with Ohno for a bit and who knows where Roddy will be after Sanity.

    • Elizabeth Sherwood

      I have hopes that it’ll be Roddy, and Drew will turn heel and win it from him.

      • “BIG M” Adams.

        I want Drew on the main roster!

        • Stephen Cash

          They should team him up with the Maharaja!!! Oh wait…

          • ikon

            Then Heath can turn on Rhyno and…….

          • Elizabeth Sherwood

            3MB BAYBAY!!!

  • Xavier

    I forgot about Mickie lol

    • drew

      me too sadly.

    • Elizabeth Sherwood

      I didn’t…. Thanks to Kendra, I never will… *shudders*

    • “BIG M” Adams.

      She can’t seem to find her groove in the ring or on the mic since her WWE return!

  • See, Paige? This is how grown-up wives conduct themselves. Mickie is doing business in one place and her hubby is doing business somewhere else. They aren’t embarrassing themselves all over Twitter either.

    • Xavier

      Oh trust me though, Mickie was young and dumb once though aswell. The pics are out there

      • It didn’t cost as much then, though. Social networking wasn’t a thing then the way it is now.

        • Xavier

          True

        • Elizabeth Sherwood

          Three words: Jenny Jones Show

          • What happened on the “Jenny Jones Show”?

          • Elizabeth Sherwood

            Mickie. Fully. Exposed.

          • Oh my. Honestly didn’t know about that.

          • Elizabeth Sherwood

            And this was BEFORE WWE.

  • conan_kun

    Sasha just tweeted “Here’s the thing about revenge… It can happen anywhere. Watch your back @AliciaFoxy @NoamDar #205 #Raw #YoMamasHouse 😡”, will Sasha go to 205 Live to get them.

    • BlazeKing

      Women’s matches on 205 Live?

      (Dear god, yes?)

      • Then, we’ll know Sasha no longer matters

        • ikon

          #FACT

      • conan_kun

        Sasha may have Cedric Alexander or Rich Swann to make it mixed tag match.

  • ikon

    Alexa is dangerous with that kendo stick man! She swings that thing like a pro

    • SANDWOMAN!

      • ikon

        OMGosh if she comes through the crowd with the kendo stick before that match I might die!

  • “BIG M” Adams.

    Fans would never question why there are weapons under the ring.

    But Bottles of Gatorade…they may question that LOL!

    • BlazeKing

      *A wild Bray Wyatt appears*

      *throws Pokeball*

      *Bray Wyatt flees!*

    • Xavier

      Wrestlers get thirsty too lol

      • “BIG M” Adams.

        Maybe Hornswoggle left them there!

        • Elizabeth Sherwood

          I wouldn’t drink them then… they may be quite salty.

          • “BIG M” Adams.

            EWWW!!! LMFAO!
            Although, he has said in interviews that he never had to relieve himself while he was under there!

  • drew

    weird.

    • BlazeKing

      Somebody hit the wrong cue, lol.

      • I like how cole played it off though as a mind game from Bray Wyatt.

        • Elizabeth Sherwood

          That was a good improv.

        • BlazeKing

          That’s because Bray was smiling, haha!

  • ikon

    Dunn’s teeth hitting the wrong button again

    • BlazeKing

      He pushed his knees into his teeth!!!

  • ikon

    Bray just laughing about it blatantly too lol

  • Xavier

    I hate how Seth Rollins buried Samoa Joe at Payback

    • ikon

      I never know when you’re trolling anymore lol *just moves on*

      • Xavier

        😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • “BIG M” Adams.

    Production Botch!

  • ikon

    Seriously Roman has such a heel expression all the time… hes got resting bijasdfjakch face lol he is a natural born heel vince come on…..

    • Elizabeth Sherwood

      He has more of a resting B***h face than I do!

      • ikon

        looks like he is constipated and mad about it all the time haha

      • BlazeKing

        He has the face I have after I notice I forgot to turn off auto-pay for that trial subscription.

    • “BIG M” Adams.

      I’ve always said he just has that heel look and feel!
      He’s playing completely against type as a babyface!

      • BlazeKing

        Especially since he’s played heel for a good chunk of his career!

        • ikon

          wrong kind of heel lol

  • drew

    im leaving yall. goodnight.

    • “BIG M” Adams.

      Take it easy mate!

      • drew

        you too!

    • BlazeKing

      See ya later!

      • drew

        bye!

  • Welp time to go to work.

    • “BIG M” Adams.

      Take it easy “Maharaja”

  • “BIG M” Adams.

    The muting of the crowd is getting more obvious every week!
    It’s just sad.

    • Xavier

      You making up stuff is getting more obvious

      • ikon

        You know damn well they do that constantly lol

        • Xavier

          The volume was the same for every guy who made their entrance

          • ikon

            I dunno about tonight my volume is split between different things but you still know they do it lol

      • Elizabeth Sherwood

        They’ve been turning the house Miss way down for Roman’s matches.

        • Xavier

          Like the night after Mania?

          • “BIG M” Adams.

            There was no hope in hell of drowning those boos out so they decided not to bother!

          • ikon

            And then didn’t run with it after that at all. Such a wasted opportunity to actually get him somewhere interesting!

          • “BIG M” Adams.

            True!
            His best work on the mic and they had ZERO follow up!

          • Xavier

            So they lower the volume sometimes to try and hide that he’s being booed even though the announcers acknowledge the backlash now but other times they leave the volume up? Makes sense

          • BlazeKing

            They don’t lower the volume. An audio filter is used from the production console. It’s usually “Noise Gate” that is used to “level” audio.

            (Edit: They also have microphone arrays in the metal structure above the ring where the lights are. That’s for noise-cancellation so everybody can hear each other cleanly through the headsets and cleaner broadcast presentation. I’m a broadcast nerd…)

          • Yeah, they’re turning the mics down.

          • BlazeKing

            It’s harder to turn that type of audio down, but easier to just cancel it out. The telltale usage of Noise Gate is certain highpitched sounds being able to come through easily, but lower pitched ones have a harder time depending on the settings.

          • ikon

            They don’t turn it down. They mute the audience mics.

          • BlazeKing

            That wouldn’t work well because that crowd noise would still ride over the entrance music. It would be obvious if they muted everything and crossfaded the music from the truck. They just never had to try to do something like mute MASSIVE boos with HD clarity.

          • ikon

            They may have changed it recently to make it less obvious. I haven’t paid much attention honestly. When it was super blatant though it seemed to me they just muted those mics and the crowd was still picked up from other mics just lightly.

          • BlazeKing

            They could have gotten away with it before the transition to HD. That changed the game and gave birth to “Cena Talks Too Much” segments on Youtube!

          • ikon

            If you watch some of the shows before they started acknowledging the boos it was almost that blatantly obvious lol.

          • BlazeKing

            Oh, I heard it!!! I thought my audio cable was loose or something and started readjusting because I thought it was my streaming setup interfering with something.

          • Cancelling it out with noise gating is far more difficult. The frequencies are mid-range. They reside in the same frequencies as other human voices we’d need to hear. Noise gating doesn’t work that way.

          • BlazeKing

            That’s why it was so obvious, before. It was being done so sloppily and the boos of soooooo damn deep because they were coming from the gut. You could hear the distortions clearly if you had 5.1 surround.

          • You’re talking a high-pass filter but there’d be no point to that. You can’t “gate” it out because every other voice lives in those frequencies. I have 7.1 here and all I’m hearing is compression from Comcast at times. When frequencies become unruly, the compression kicks in.

          • BlazeKing

            Yes, high-pass filter! I stand corrected. That’s exactly what I should have said.

            I’m catching a satellite signal, so I’m not well versed on how Comcast handles things, anymore. Haven’t been for at least 15 years… I was with Verizon from 2007 to about 2011, though.

          • ikon

            You really can’t believe that they don’t try to hide the boos sometimes. You can clearly hear it go from super loud to not so loud in an instant.

          • Xavier

            Why would they try and hide anything when the cats been out of the bag for years now?

          • I don’t get that either. He’s not loved. Why they bother to hide what’s so obvious is anyone’s guess.

          • Xavier

            Because they’re not. During the Strowman ambulance beat down and the match at Paybsck you could here the fans loud and clear.

          • We’ve heard too much proof from people who’ve been there and reported back here that they are. There’s jus too need for it.

          • ikon

            Who f*cking knows lol. Why do they continue to try and force him as a face? Why do the push him at the expense of EVERYONE? why this why that. We don’t have any clue. But they CLEARLY do it sometimes.

          • Xavier

            Because he draws and makes the company money

          • ikon

            Thats why the ratings are the lowest ever though right?

          • Xavier

            Is it because of Roman though? He’s not even champ. Hasn’t been for 11 months

          • ikon

            Not all of it of course not. Its mostly the shitty story telling lol. You know I don’t hate him that much. BUT the constant pushing of him as the only person that matters has hurt. If he was the draw you think he is and they want him to be it would be stable or going up now dropping constantly since he has been the focus for four years or so now.

          • Elizabeth Sherwood

            BEcause VKM still wants him moving merch and being a face. And boos will hurt his money.

          • Why? Workers who are boo-d still sell merch.

          • “BIG M” Adams.

            And i am STILL not convinced he is the full time top merch seller either!

          • ikon

            I’ve personally not seen a single person wearing Reigns merch

          • Xavier

            Yeah Forbes, Googlr and Dave Meltzer are all making it up, it’s a conspiracy

          • ikon

            WWE has no reason to tell us the truth on that. They will put out whatever numbers they want to fit their agenda lol come on man

          • Xavier

            Meltzer hates Roman and he’s even stated this

          • ikon

            He has no insight afaik into their actual financials though?

          • Xavier

            Do you? Or any other dirtsheet that reports on WWE?

          • ikon

            Exactly. So why would we believe them that he is top merch seller? It fits their agenda to say that. You can see it with your own eyes. Not many people have Reigns merch.

          • “BIG M” Adams.

            NO ONE DOES!
            That’s why I have a hard time believing it if it comes straight from WWE!

  • ikon

    I think Roman forgot he is supposed to be “hurt” still lol

  • Roman found DDP’s old Rib bandages.

  • ikon

    I take it back…. I think EVERYONE forgot Reigns is still supposed to be hurt lol

  • Elizabeth Sherwood

    Ew! That was NASTY with Joe!

  • Elizabeth Sherwood

    …DIVE

    • Xavier

      Lol

    • “BIG M” Adams.

      You notice commentary slyly referencing that debate lately?

  • “BIG M” Adams.

    Interesting Finish to the match…I like it!

  • Elizabeth Sherwood

    Love the Angle ending! Perfect way to close it.

  • “BIG M” Adams.

    Well thats that.
    See you tomorrow WNW people!

  • Elizabeth Sherwood

    Night everyone! This girl had fun watching with you all, even if most of the show was a snooze fest!

    • ikon

      I don’t even remember what happened lol. Night!

      • I only remember parts of it. I remember having very wet clothes about 30 minutes in for some reason.

  • “BIG M” Adams.

    We can explain these till we are blue in the face Liz, but some fans just don’t want to believe it!
    Leave it!

    • Xavier

      Post the royality checks then

  • Xavier

    Then who’s top 5 then? Since y’all have access to stuff that Meltzer doesn’t. Post the royality checks?

    • Elizabeth Sherwood

      I PMed you.

  • ikon

    I’ve never looked into it that deeply. I just do the eye test where not many people have Reigns merch while you still see tons of Cena and Stone Cold etc etc on younger fans. I don’t think anyone can argue with tax return facts.

  • ikon

    Well this RAW was basically garbage lol. Night everyone. No hard feelings about differing opinions!

    • Xavier

      Take it easy bro

      • ikon

        You as well sir

  • ROB-1.

    Did they say who beat Enzo?